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Moderna: Covid vaccine shows nearly 95% protection
BBC News ^ | November 16, 2020 | By James Gallagher

Posted on 11/16/2020 4:08:14 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer

A new vaccine that protects against Covid-19 is nearly 95% effective, early data from US company Moderna shows.

The results come hot on the heels of similar results from Pfizer, and add to growing confidence that vaccines can help end the pandemic.

Both companies used a highly innovative and experimental approach to designing their vaccines.

Moderna says it is a "great day" and they plan to apply for approval to use the vaccine in the next few weeks.

However, this is still early data and key questions remain unanswered.

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: china; moderna; pandemic; virus
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To: palmer

...and it kills or cripples the other 5%??? That's all they test for in phase 1. Not efficacy, just safety. If it killed or crippled anyone they would not have proceeded to phase 2.

Other way around - Phase 1 is efficacy. If it doesn't work it doesn't go to Phase 2. Phase 2 is to assess best dose / dose frequency. Phase 3 is safety and efficacy.

There is Phase 4 post-marketing for more safety and efficacy data.

41 posted on 11/16/2020 6:04:33 AM PST by corkoman
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To: Flick Lives

That would be the 99.7% of the population who recover after getting Covid, including those who are asymptomatic.

Yup. If you only include those sick enough to go to a doctor it drops to 96.4%

IOW,
99.7% infection fatality rate
96.4% case fatality rate

I check off most of the high risk boxes, I think I'll take a pass on the vaccine.

42 posted on 11/16/2020 6:06:56 AM PST by null and void (Rob a bank or steal an election, and get caught, do you get to keep the money or the votes?)
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To: corkoman

Trump’s virus vaccines will save America before inauguration day.


43 posted on 11/16/2020 6:07:15 AM PST by 1Old Pro ( )
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To: SMARTY

When you say it like that, sure sounds comical. This whole situation is not funny though. We are on the brink and they are trying to push us over the edge.


44 posted on 11/16/2020 6:12:30 AM PST by Bulwyf
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To: palmer

There is more a panicked rush than science right now.

Question: are the companies making the vaccine immune from lawsuits?

We shall see, wont we? :)

But count me out.


45 posted on 11/16/2020 6:14:20 AM PST by dhs12345
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To: LibertyOh

No it’s not. If you don’t see the bigger picture here, then God help you.

They are playing for keeps.


46 posted on 11/16/2020 6:14:34 AM PST by Bulwyf
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To: Mom MD

Has that 95% figure been seen in elderly patients as well, do you know?


47 posted on 11/16/2020 6:15:31 AM PST by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds. )
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To: null and void

I wish people could see past the vaccine to the real agenda.


48 posted on 11/16/2020 6:15:51 AM PST by Bulwyf
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To: SMARTY

Wow - 95% protection for a condition with 99% recovery rate.... JUST WOW!!

Fake crisis, even now that we have a solution the media is still jumping off buildings.

49 posted on 11/16/2020 6:16:56 AM PST by 1Old Pro ( )
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To: Bulwyf

from another thread:

null and void to Godzilla

Gov Cuomo is now threatening to sue the Trump administration if the distribution plan makes it difficult for ‘people of color’ to receive it.

Meanwhile on the leftist coast, Nancy Pelosi's former nephew, Gov. Newsom won't allow it until and unless it passes a California certification process.

That could take days or years, depending on how compliant the people of California are to knuckling under his rule.


50 posted on 11/16/2020 6:19:11 AM PST by null and void (Rob a bank or steal an election, and get caught, do you get to keep the money or the votes?)
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To: null and void

YIKES! Fatality rate should be recovery rate!

51 posted on 11/16/2020 6:21:51 AM PST by null and void (Rob a bank or steal an election, and get caught, do you get to keep the money or the votes?)
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To: dhs12345

Question: are the companies making the vaccine immune from lawsuits?

Yes, our "betters" in congress have made double damned sure of it.

52 posted on 11/16/2020 6:23:31 AM PST by null and void (Rob a bank or steal an election, and get caught, do you get to keep the money or the votes?)
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To: null and void

We’re in the middle of a coup and they’re still playing weird games.


53 posted on 11/16/2020 6:26:44 AM PST by Bulwyf
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To: Apple Pan Dowdy

Excellent question, would like to see a deeper data dig

“It’s 95% because we said so” is not a good enough report.


54 posted on 11/16/2020 6:31:04 AM PST by cookcounty (Susan Rice: G Gordon Liddy times 10.)
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To: 1Old Pro

For sure-I always say that hysteria is the Liberals’ default mode.

Anyway-we can certainly expect the virus sham to continue at least until our “orgy-of-crime-election” is confirmed, one way or another.

I am certain Liberals’ chances diminish by the hour and their loss will ramp-up the virus announcements. Their hysteria will reach new heights.

BTW-The instant the MSM decided Joe won, a ‘vaccine’ was announced. Strange right? Then, after the vote fraud and all the other irregularities were exposed... the Liberals revisited their ‘doom and gloom’ scenarios.

What? We weren't supposed to notice their childishly, half-a%*ed lack of effort to conceal the proximity between the vaccine announcement and the Biden ‘victory’?

I hate it when ignorant people insult me like that.

55 posted on 11/16/2020 6:39:05 AM PST by SMARTY ("Barbarism is the absence of standards to which an appeal can be made" Y Gasset)
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To: Jim Noble

I will likewise look forward to being vaccinated.


56 posted on 11/16/2020 6:43:15 AM PST by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America: INCLUDING THEIR LIBERTIES)
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To: SMARTY

I hate it when ignorant people insult me like that.

The media and the Dems are playing much of the public. The question is can we survive this political misinformation or will something be done about it. I feel like a citizen of say Iran, the government and the media is corrupt and with election fraud there is nothing anyone can do about I without being shamed or prosecuted. It's why Trump's biggest part of his life could be after election leading us from the darkness, we do need a national leader to be effective and it ain't going to be one of the current list of GOP pansies.

57 posted on 11/16/2020 6:44:20 AM PST by 1Old Pro ( )
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To: Sacajaweau

Statistically speaking there should be asymptomatic people in the study and there were no adverse effects.


58 posted on 11/16/2020 6:45:06 AM PST by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America: INCLUDING THEIR LIBERTIES)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

It was only a matter of time before science will catch up. Now why didn’t they realize the news before the election?


59 posted on 11/16/2020 6:45:09 AM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: Bulwyf

Point of order, you said:

We’re in the middle of a coup and they’re still playing weird games.

That should be:

We’re in the middle of an attempted coup and they’re still playing weird games.

It's not a revolution, revolutions are, by definition, successful.

It's a revolt.

60 posted on 11/16/2020 6:45:17 AM PST by null and void (Rob a bank or steal an election, and get caught, do you get to keep the money or the votes?)
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