The rejected vote count is what matters: The narrative that to contest the election, the Trump campaign must produce enough evidence of fraudulent voters to make up the difference in the vote count is incorrect

American Thinker ^ | 11/09/2020 | Jonathan Cohen

[SeekAndFind]

The challenge to the 2020 presidential election is based not on unlawful voting, but on ineligible ballots. There is a narrative put out by the Democratic party and their media allies that to contest the election, the Trump campaign must produce enough evidence of fraudulent voters to make up the difference in the vote count. That has very little to do with the bulk of the challenges.

States have a variety of laws to deal with absentee ballots that are put in place to ensure the integrity of the process. These laws are there because it is a lot easier to cheat with mail-in voting. Everyone knows this, though for the last six months, there has been a serious effort to deny it.

As a point of comparison, consider how teachers prevent cheating on exams. They sit in front of the room as students take their exam. They watch them to make sure the students are looking at their own papers. This is enough to prevent most cheating.

Now, imagine a teacher, after several years without incident, deciding that since she has seen no cheating, there is no real reason to watch the students. Instead, after handing out the exams, she leaves the room, returns to her office, and returns an hour later to collect the exams. (If you needed to give an exam without a proctor, you would have to go to great length, such as producing completely different exams for each student, to ensure the integrity of the exams.)

The Democrat party has long promoted mail-in voting, as Democrats believe that their supporters are less likely to vote in person than their opponents' voters. The pandemic presented a unique opportunity to massively increase the number of mail-in ballots and urge their followers to vote by mail.

[rigelkentaurus]

All votes counted, delivered, touched, in the room when poll watchers were illegally excluded are fraudulent votes by definition. It is up to the criminals to prove each and every ballot or count during those periods is valid.

[reasonisfaith]

FAKE VOTES DON’T COUNT!!!

[mo]

all they need to do is present evidence of an interfered with election that disenfranchises so many voters the only civil rights recourse for them is for that state’s legislative body to vote a set of Electors to the electoral College themselves

[Liz]

A narrative put out by the Democratic party, aided and abetted by their media allies, contends that to contest the election,
the Trump campaign must produce enough evidence of fraudulent voters to make up the difference in the vote count.

Amazing to hear Democraps actually believe they still have credibility on election issues after what they put the American electorate through.

[philman_36]

These issues will be adjudicated before the courts.

Courts?

We don't need no stinking courts!
/Sierra Madre impression

[frogjerk]

That’s great but to they have the ballz to actually do something about it? That is the question.

[redfreedom]

There is much out there regarding the “evidence” of vote fraud. Or the diehard left claiming there is no evidence.

I’ve been a party to several lawsuits, as a plaintiff, as a juror, and as a witness. This never made me a lawyer, but it did make me fully aware that a lawsuit takes months to prepare. Charges can be made based upon suspicion, and are not proven until the discovery process is complete. There is witness testimony to depose as well as physical evidence to assemble. This is never done overnight.

People need to chill out. Granted Team Trump has only days, not months to gather evidence. But for crying out loud, give them a chance. This is far from over!!!!!!!

[convoter2016]

I agree. Trump’s team will prove many mail-in ballots weren’t observed by a Republican poll watcher. I’m sure they will argue that those ballots be excluded from the vote count. There is an audio recording of the training of poll workers where the supervisor told the trainees that they can force poll watchers 6 feet away from the poll workers. And if the poll workers work within 6 feet of a wall, the poll watchers can be forced to be so far away from the poll workers that the poll watchers are blocked from what’s really going on.

[grumpygresh]

I don’t see why it can’t be determined for mail in ballots who actually sent them in? We have USPS data and the mail in ballot should be preserved as evidence (unless they destroyed them).
Then it’s fairly easy to determine where the Ineligible or fraudulent votes took place based on the statistical improbability of results, reports or irregularities (and everyone knows the big city blue districts).
Why couldn’t ineligible be fraudulent in many cases?
Look for Dems to object based on anti-discrimination laws.

[Adder]

Three judges have said as much: where is your proof of fraud?

You have to show something...like dead people voting to at least pause the process to take a closer look. I want Trump to win very badly and I think he really did...but there has to be more than assertions.

Especially when the lower courts are stacked against you, eager to curry favor with their dumblecrat masters.

The weakest argument I have seen is the “look at the downvoting breaking for Trump...” Slojo could easily say those votes were stolen from his party because look at the presidential vote. No its not feasible or true but assertions don’t have to be anything but posits. Even red herrings.

So I hope Trump has something...ANYTHING...solid to fight with.

[wny]

re: PA votes continuing to materialize a week later, lib hole here in the office argues every vote must be counted.

I ask “if I vote twice, should they both be counted?”

dumb look....

I ask: can I vote next week?

dumber look....

I ask: can I vote in PA (we’re in NY)….

then she called me a racist
OK, I made that part up, but it’s plausible...

[Liz]

The legal challenge to the 2020 presidential election is based (A) not on unlawful voting, but (B) on ineligible ballots.

Pointed out elsewhere:
<><> Democratic-bullied states suspiciously “simultaneously” shut down vote counting Tuesday night,
<><> Trump’s vote count was so far ahead of Biden’s in those states that Trump had unofficially been reelected;
<><> Trump had 294 electoral votes at that point. Trump’s winning number was hidden by Fox and the MSM Biden suck-ups.
<><>With Trump at 294 verified electoral votes, that's when "found ballots for Biden" started rolling in, in massive numbers.....as planned.

[Liz]

NOTE WELL: Evidence of unreliable vote results does not have to be at the level of convincing a court of law.
It has only to "suggest uncertainty." And in the presence of uncertainty, the state Legislature decides, not a court.

[grumpygresh]

If it’s only a matter of running out the clock, the Dems could probably do that by blocking access to evidence via legal objections or outright refusal.
In such a high profile situation scotus would opt for expediency over justice? My intuition tells me that seeing how corrupt the legal system is, it would select expediency, but I would love to be proven wrong.
Not only would the electoral process by impugned, but also the legal system.
If necessary, the electoral college vote should be delaying.

[Lee25]

Ballots were back dated. No way to tell them

[PK1991]

Cohen states: “A popular narrative has been floating around the media that President Trump has accused the Democrats of voter fraud. That would be almost impossible to prove in large enough numbers to overturn the election in any of the close races.” The narrative comes from President Trump. Did Cohen watch his press conference or read any of his tweets? He is very clear this was “FRAUD.” He believes he is prove it and I trust Trump. That’s why I voted for him!

[Liz]

<><> China's currency, the yuan, has skyrocketed in the last 12 hours as a Biden victory is priced in.

<><> now Trump supporters see a greater existential threat to America’s superpower status.

<><> Biden is in bed so deep with Beijing that he could put US interests at risk.

<><> Hunter Biden’s ex-partner claimed Hunter pocketed $5M in a Chinese-backed infrastructure project, and then-VP Biden was in on the deal.

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Remember the conniving Democrats used COVID TO JUSTIFY 'MAIL-IN' VOTING FRAUD........

Were Democrats colluding with China to interfere in US elections? Might need a S/P for that.

China is desperate to have Biden as president.....shockingly a CCP newspaper even endorsed him.

CHINA GAVE US COVID TO UNDERMINE TRUMP, SO IT IS NOT UNREASONABLE TO BELIEVE
CHINA ENGAGED IN MASSIVE COUNTERFEIT BALLOT INFESTATION OF THE US ELECTORAL SYSTEMS.
(h/t Civil War Brewing)

[Jim Noble]

Perhaps philman36 still believes in the GOP.

[Lee25]

The enough suspicions are raised that final votes are too contaminated to be trusted or sorted out given limited timeframe that Supreme Court will instruct state legislature to select EVs, I hope.