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Is Getting Trump Worth It?
Townhall.com ^ | October 28, 2020 | Walter E. Williams

Posted on 10/28/2020 4:57:15 AM PDT by Kaslin

President Donald Trump is not the first president to be hated by a large segment of the American population. In more recent times, there was considerable hate for President Ronald Reagan. Even though the Democratic Speaker of the House Tip O'Neill and Reagan were polar opposites in their politics, they could be friends. Once, when Reagan confronted O'Neill about nasty things that he said about him in a newspaper, O'Neill replied, "That's just politics, after 6 o'clock we're buddies -- we're friends." Politics today has become something not seen in our history. The true tragedy is that many Americans have bought into the hate, destructiveness and plain nastiness and are seemingly ignorant or uncaring about its long-term consequences for our nation.

Democrats say that if they win the presidency, they would increase the size of the U.S. Supreme Court by appointing justices who would do their bidding -- packing the court. One wonders whether they think that a future Republican president would simply ignore what they have done. I doubt it. A future Republican president would resort to the same tactic and appoint justices that would do his bidding. The U.S. Supreme Court would become no less than a super-legislature, subject to the will of politicians.

Last June, the U.S. House of Representatives passed a bill in favor of D.C. statehood. The measure was dead on arrival at the Republican-controlled Senate. But should Joe Biden win the presidency and bring with him majorities in the House and Senate, he would make statehood for D.C. -- and Puerto Rico -- a political priority. That would give the Democrats four more seats in the U.S. Senate, therefore guaranteeing them a solid majority. But would Republicans accept that without a response? What about splitting up strong Republican states, such as Oklahoma, Kansas, Nebraska, Wyoming, Utah and Idaho. For example, create a West Oklahoma and East Oklahoma or a North Utah and South Utah. That would give the Republicans four additional senators thereby offsetting the new Democratic senators. You say, "Williams, dividing up states to get greater representation in the House of Representatives and the Senate would violate the Constitution." The fact of the matter is that making Washington, D.C., a state would violate the Constitution. Article I, Section 8, clause 17 of the U.S. Constitution provides explicitly for a national capital that would not be part of a state nor treated as a state, but rather a jurisdiction under the exclusive authority of Congress, a neutral "district" in which representatives of all the states could meet on an equal footing to conduct the nation's business.

So, far as dividing up states, Article IV of our Constitution, in part, says, "but no new State shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State; nor any State be formed by the Junction of two or more States, or Parts of States, without the Consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress."

By the way, in 1863, President Abraham Lincoln, who claimed that he was fighting against secession, violated the U.S. Constitution when he proclaimed the admission of West Virginia into the Union. The Virginia state legislature did not vote to support West Virginia's secession from Virginia.

The bottom-line question is whether our nation can survive the divisions that we see today. Too many people want to blame it all on Trump. How much blame can be put on Trump for the riots, looting and, as Axios estimated, the close to $2 billion in losses from property destruction? What about the murder and shooting of civilians and law enforcement officers? What about the tearing down of monuments, not only those of Confederate generals but of Abraham Lincoln, Christopher Columbus, Thomas Jefferson, George Washington and abolitionist Frederick Douglass?

Perhaps the most tragic aspect of today's division is that much of it is a byproduct of our education system where young people are taught to hate our nation's founders and founding principles. However, it is these principles, though practiced imperfectly, that have created the freest and richest nation in mankind's history. The question is if our nation can survive the widespread anti-Trump hate.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: joebiden; politics; presidenttrump; washingtondc
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1 posted on 10/28/2020 4:57:15 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

One of the stupidest articles I’ve ever read.


2 posted on 10/28/2020 5:01:24 AM PDT by Baldwin77 (They hated Reagan too ! TRUMP TOUGH - AMERICA STRONG)
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To: Kaslin

Note to Walter Williams: Trump isn’t the problem. He’s the painful chemotherapy.

As if, Trump’s losing would make all the underlying symptoms suddenly disappear.


3 posted on 10/28/2020 5:02:54 AM PDT by Baldwin77 (They hated Reagan too ! TRUMP TOUGH - AMERICA STRONG)
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To: Kaslin

You can’t be friends with people who want to destroy you and your way of life. Only one side will win this battle. When we’re finished with all the niceties of civil discourse like voting and debates,the real war will start. We’re at the same point we were at before the Civil War.


4 posted on 10/28/2020 5:03:49 AM PDT by HighSierra5
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To: Kaslin

Hiden/Harris and Bolshekrats not worth it.


5 posted on 10/28/2020 5:03:53 AM PDT by depressed in 06 (60 in '20. Now, more than ever! (61, I didn't take into account Mittens.))
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To: Kaslin

Did the Compromise of 1820 and the Compromise of 1850 save lives, or did it simply make the War worse when it finally came?

Discuss.


6 posted on 10/28/2020 5:05:56 AM PDT by Jim Noble
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To: Kaslin

That’s just an awful headline.


7 posted on 10/28/2020 5:06:19 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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To: Kaslin

It is not Trump they’re after my friend. It’s us.


8 posted on 10/28/2020 5:07:36 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: Baldwin77
One of the stupidest articles I’ve ever read.

Agreed!


9 posted on 10/28/2020 5:08:07 AM PDT by SanchoP
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To: Kaslin
"That's just politics, after 6 o'clock we're buddies -- we're friends."

One reason liberals have intensely hated me through the years. I do NOT subscribe to that.

10 posted on 10/28/2020 5:08:29 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: SanchoP

Yep.


11 posted on 10/28/2020 5:08:50 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: HighSierra5

I wish I had kept a tally of al, the times I have read, “this time it’s war! And we MEAN IT!”

Yawn.


12 posted on 10/28/2020 5:09:08 AM PDT by jazminerose (Hunter Biden 2024)
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To: Kaslin

What kind of stupid article is this?
I don’t give a damn about the anti-Trump idiots
Trump is smoking out the crooks and Marxists in our society who have steadily been grabbing more and more power since that idiot Nixon and his sidekick Kissinger were running things. Aside from Reagan, every president up until Trump has been a scoundrel, crook or idiot.


13 posted on 10/28/2020 5:10:53 AM PDT by ZULU (Impeach John Roberts for corruption. SOROS IS "SPARTACUS" BOOKER'S LANISTA.)
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To: Kaslin

Seems like everyone read a different piece than I did. I thought it was excellent. The headline is good too. It simply means that the Democrats are destroying everything just to get Trump, without seeing the eventual response.


14 posted on 10/28/2020 5:11:12 AM PDT by Codeflier (Covid-19 taught me: Two types of "conservatives", frightened safety seekers vs. freedom lovers)
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To: Kaslin
O'Neill replied, "That's just politics, after 6 o'clock we're buddies -- we're friends."

I don’t think I would consider someone who publicly called me “an amiable dunce” a friend.

15 posted on 10/28/2020 5:11:15 AM PDT by Flag_This (China delenda est.)
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To: Kaslin

Wake up call to WW...(you can’t fix propagandists)

“Barack Will Never Allow You To Go Back To Your Lives As Usual, Uninvolved, Uninformed” - BIG MIKE

We the people are STILL reeling from THE MOST EVIL adminstration in the history of this fabulous republic. Joe Biden is the epitome of that EVIL.

If you like your civilization, you can keep your civilization.
If you like your POTUS, you can keep your POTUS.

Don’t look back, don’t think twice, it’s alright.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iHhWh9FtsQ


16 posted on 10/28/2020 5:11:27 AM PDT by PGalt (Past Peak Civilization?)
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To: Kaslin

The article title does not fit the article text.


17 posted on 10/28/2020 5:11:30 AM PDT by ConservativeInPA ("Wapeace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength." - George Orwell, 1984)
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To: Kaslin

I realize that the tradition on here is to read only the headline and ignore the article, but in this case you can’t understand Williams’ point if you do so. The phrase “getting Trump” in the headline is used in the sense of what the left is trying to do, as in “This next scandal is going to be the one where we get Trump”, rather than the sense of getting another term of a Trump Presidency. Williams argues that Trump is not the issue and that the left’s attempts to counteract Trump are short-sighted.


18 posted on 10/28/2020 5:12:52 AM PDT by stremba
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T minus 6 days...

Ready - Aim - Vote

HOORAY Chief


19 posted on 10/28/2020 5:13:15 AM PDT by PGalt (Past Peak Civilization?)
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To: Kaslin
I think some are misinterpreting the headline, specifically in the use of the word 'Getting'...

IMO, he's asking those who hate Trump if getting RID OF him is really worth it, not asking those of us who like him whether it's worth having him re-elected.

20 posted on 10/28/2020 5:16:26 AM PDT by DJ Frisat ( (optional, printed after my name on post))
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