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No, President Trump: Wind turbines aren't killing 'all the birds.' Cats are.
Business Insider ^ | Oct 23 2020 | Susie Neilson

Posted on 10/23/2020 12:44:35 PM PDT by where's_the_Outrage?

During Thursday's presidential debate, Donald Trump claimed that wind turbines kill "all the birds."

Wind turbines kill about 234,000 birds a year, whereas cats kill 2.4 billion.

North America may have lost nearly 3 billion birds, a quarter of its total bird population, since 1970.

During Thursday's final 2020 presidential debate, President Donald Trump repeated a claim he's made throughout his presidency: that wind turbines are extremely deadly to birds.

"I know more about wind than you do," Trump told former Vice President Joe Biden. "It's extremely expensive, kills all the birds, it's very intermittent, it's got a lot of problems."

Trump is wrong. Although wind turbines do kill some birds every year, they're not responsible for many avian deaths relative to other causes, and they certainly do not kill "all the birds."

(Excerpt) Read more at msn.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: birdkills; birds; businessinsider; cats; globalwarminghoax; greennewdeal; susieneilson; windturbine
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To: where's_the_Outrage?
2.9 Billion Bird Deaths Linked to Solar, Wind

Did she complain about this:

Nearly 70,000 birds killed in New York in attempt to clear safer path for planes

61 posted on 10/23/2020 1:41:37 PM PDT by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

I went out to the pasture a couple of years ago to see if there were any new calves. I saw an eagle on the ground and figured it might be looking at some afterbirth. Getting closer I saw he was eating my cat. It made me think about the cat and that something could come out of the sky and get you.

I thought of this too when that Iranian General got his last year too.


62 posted on 10/23/2020 1:51:24 PM PDT by taterjay
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

As a Representative of the “single cat ladies” demographic, I find this horribly offensive. This article is clearly an attempt to shame all unmarriageable women over 35 who seek companionship of the feline sort.

Furthermore, this problem could also be solved if the democrat party could stop turning men into pussies.


63 posted on 10/23/2020 1:52:17 PM PDT by GeorgianaCavendish (Beam me up Scotty, there's no sign of intelligent life down here)
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To: AnthonySoprano
Birds are chopped up in the thousands 24 hrs a day.

And protected birds are chopped up indiscriminately.

The turbine blades are not really the culprit here. It is all those cats glued to the turbine blades that catch the birds and then kill them.

64 posted on 10/23/2020 1:52:39 PM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: campaignPete R-CT

Cats are invasive. Exterminate the feral cats. Now

I figured this out 20 years when I saw different feral cats all winter. No wonder there are no quail anymore.


65 posted on 10/23/2020 1:53:04 PM PDT by taterjay
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

I know that cats kill birds, but how does anyone know how many birds cats are killed by cats? On the other hand, someone, if so inclined, could walk around a wind farm and get a good idea of birds likely killed by wind turbines.


66 posted on 10/23/2020 1:54:23 PM PDT by Southside_Chicago_Republican (The more I learn about people, the more I like my dog.)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

Bird lives matter. If we can save just one bird, it’s worth it. Etc.


67 posted on 10/23/2020 1:56:37 PM PDT by rightwingcrazy (;-,)
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To: HarleyD

‘Clean’energy you know.

https://www.barchart.com/story/futures/quotes/RBZ20/futures-prices/492317/joe-biden-is-coming-for-you-the-energy-report-10232020


68 posted on 10/23/2020 1:59:48 PM PDT by taterjay
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

bird kills will change when number of windmills = number of cats


69 posted on 10/23/2020 2:06:01 PM PDT by Steven Tyler
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To: rightwingcrazy

Yes

but

black cats matter


70 posted on 10/23/2020 2:08:18 PM PDT by campaignPete R-CT (Committee to Re-Elect the President ( CREEP ))
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To: where's_the_Outrage?
Yeah but windmills are anthropomorphic bird killing.

Cats gonna cat.

And by the way, solar cycles gonna cycle, viruses gonna virus.

Nature gonna nature.

71 posted on 10/23/2020 2:08:42 PM PDT by tinyowl (A is A)
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To: conservative98

“Good post. Send her an email.”

And a B male.


72 posted on 10/23/2020 2:20:17 PM PDT by polymuser (A socialist is a communist without the power to take everything from their citizens...yet.)
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To: campaignPete R-CT

“Cats are invasive. Exterminate the feral cats. Now.”

No more than one cat per feminist, too.


73 posted on 10/23/2020 2:21:16 PM PDT by polymuser (A socialist is a communist without the power to take everything from their citizens...yet.)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

“No, President Trump: Wind turbines aren’t killing ‘all the birds.’ Cats are.”

And solar panel farms aren’t frying bird...coyotes are because they are hungry.


74 posted on 10/23/2020 2:25:46 PM PDT by antidemoncrat (Biden's)
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To: suijuris

Great post.

I’d add one more point. The soil under the windmills becomes dried out and ill-suited for growing crops.

... and don’t forget they are an eyesore.


75 posted on 10/23/2020 2:27:19 PM PDT by generally ( Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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To: BlessedBeGod

Seems the 2.4b number is out there.

My neighbor has one cat that easily kills a bird a week, so 50 birds per year per (outside) cat is not unreasonable to me.

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/animals/2019/09/essay-to-save-birds-should-we-kill-off-cats/


76 posted on 10/23/2020 2:28:45 PM PDT by polymuser (A socialist is a communist without the power to take everything from their citizens...yet.)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?
there are more cats than turbines, but the turbines are killing them out of proportion to their numbers
77 posted on 10/23/2020 2:31:46 PM PDT by Chode (Send bachelors and come heavily armed.)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

So... She’s saying *all* the birds are killed by cats. This is different from what the President said how? lol Seriously, this is all they’ve got (and that’s NOT a figure of speach)!


78 posted on 10/23/2020 2:45:41 PM PDT by Retrofitted
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

I live in the country. There is a lot of wildlife here (too much sometimes.) I have a couple of cats to keep my cabin free of vermin, and because they are good company. As far as birds are concerned, they easily get away from my cats, and the bigger ones can get quite aggressive, especially magpies. In fact, one of my cats is terrified of birds as she was attacked by a magpie so badly she needed surgery. I have watched my other cat catch a few but they appear to me to be old and sick. I believe that, in general, healthy young birds do not get caught by cats. In any case, they leave large birds alone.

There is a pair of red tailed hawks that nest somewhere nearby, I see them often, and I worry about my cats becoming their dinner, not the other way around.


79 posted on 10/23/2020 2:52:32 PM PDT by erkelly
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To: Professional

Cats kill the little birds. Wind turbines are thinning out the big birds severely.


80 posted on 10/23/2020 2:55:28 PM PDT by arthurus ( covfefe Ho)
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