Posted on 10/23/2020 12:44:35 PM PDT by where's_the_Outrage?
During Thursday's presidential debate, Donald Trump claimed that wind turbines kill "all the birds."
Wind turbines kill about 234,000 birds a year, whereas cats kill 2.4 billion.
North America may have lost nearly 3 billion birds, a quarter of its total bird population, since 1970.
During Thursday's final 2020 presidential debate, President Donald Trump repeated a claim he's made throughout his presidency: that wind turbines are extremely deadly to birds.
"I know more about wind than you do," Trump told former Vice President Joe Biden. "It's extremely expensive, kills all the birds, it's very intermittent, it's got a lot of problems."
Trump is wrong. Although wind turbines do kill some birds every year, they're not responsible for many avian deaths relative to other causes, and they certainly do not kill "all the birds."
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Coyotes also like (to eat) cats. When nature has a problem, nature usually finds a solution.
Wind turbines kill about 234,000 birds a year, whereas cats kill 2.4 billion.
North America may have lost nearly 3 billion birds, a quarter of its total bird population, since 1970.
So, cats kill 2.4 billion birds per year in the U.S. and, nearly 3 billion birds have been lost since 1970, a 50 year period.
If both statements are true then the net loss in birds (death by cat) is ~400 million over a 50 year period or, 8 million per year!?
They put the turbines along ridge lines that the migrations follow.
They’ll through you in jail if you pick up a shed eagle feather, but they pay you to install industrial bird grinders.
Typical government.
It’s the same logic they apply to murders committed by illegal aliens when conservatives are arguing to close the border:
Us: Illegals commit murders.
Them: So what? More U.S. citizens commit murders than our “undocumented” friends.
*facepalm* Um, yeah, dummies...we’ve got enough murderers in this country without importing more.
Apparently the murders committed by illegals are fine because more U.S. citizens do it, just as the birds’ being killed by the wind turbines is fine because cats kill more of them.
Smh...
After a typical stray cat is popped three or four times with a BB gun. they learn to stay away from the birds and chip munks in my yard
In my immediate neighborhood cats have just disappeared. Coyotes are suspect
Kill a couple and the rest leave for safer ground.
Our cats always preferred squirrels and rabbits.
Remember, house sparrows, european starlings, and rock pigeons are invasive, and you, or your cat, can kill all you want.
Feral cats are astonishing in their ability to recover their numbers after a mass culling. Even when repeatedly trapped and cleared from a neighborhood, they usually repopulate.
And who the hell is counting and how? Dear Susie, stop pulling random numbers out of your lovely behind, as I’ll defend the noble feline community till he very end!
This is the opening salvo on taxing cats for the “purpose” of restocking depleted bird populations.
If a regular citizen plucked a bald eagle feather from a bird-blendered carcase, what would the fine be?
Someone said that everyone is in favor with “green energy” until they’re presented with the bill.
“Cats are invasive. Exterminate the feral cats. Now”
I agree! Feral cats should absolutely be exterminated and huge fines should be handed out to anyone who allows their cats to roam free especially in urban areas. Cats do kill billions of song birds and other wildlife for no reason other than to torture and kill. Not cool!!
“Feral cats should absolutely be exterminated”
Or adopted, neutered, and given a good life 100% indoors where they’re safe.
Susie Neilson proves to be an idiot journalist writer. Windmills kill massive amounts of birds. There are 40 windmills near where we live in Maine. They company that owns them has an bird specialist come several times a week and collect the dead birds, which are kept in a freezer, bought for this purpose, for her to identify and catalogue. From birds of prey to sparrows, all local or passing species fall to the whirling blades. Well, sometimes whirling. Depends on the wind.
These stupid people are like 6 year-olds.
Trump is right about all of this except that the turbines do not kill all of the birds, just a lot of them and seemingly a large number of raptors.
The crap about cats killing “lots” of birds is also BS. I have 7 cats and maybe find evidence of a bird kill once a month in spite of feeding the birds and having bird baths and houses all over the place.
If feral cats had all been exterminated, I would have no pets. I rescue ferals.
So... North America’s birds evolved under pressure from native wildcats, red foxes, tree-climbing grey foxes, egg and chick thieving squirrels and opossums, skunks, roost-robbing raccoons, prowling coyotes, weasels, booming post-DDT populations of cooper’s hawks and sharp-shinned hawks, not to mention constrictor snakes, and so on ... but house cats are somehow infinitely better bird hunters than native bobcats and lynx or these other natives?
Funny how they never mention that the successful, even too successful return of raptors since DDT was banned and the raptors were protected by tighter legal protections means that all these hawks that now hang out at birdfeeders waiting for feathered snacks to be lured in have been eating more songbirds than in the 70s when such hawks were scarce.
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