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To: Secret Agent Man

I don’t think so. First-degree is premeditated, second ‘heat of passion.’

I personally think Dolloff didn’t go there planning to shoot anyone, he just got slapped in the face for whatever reason, got angry and shot the guy. Seems second-degree murder to me. Wasn’t first-degree murder, wasn’t ‘fear for my life’ self-defense.


5 posted on 10/15/2020 5:12:46 PM PDT by Trump20162020
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To: Trump20162020

He was paid to go agitate against the Trump supporters and see if they could get some good footage to make things look bad for Trump. But it backfired. The other antifa guy with the black shirt on was also involved.


7 posted on 10/15/2020 5:14:18 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: Trump20162020

I 100% believe he did go there to escalate confrontations and create an incident where he could shoot someone.


8 posted on 10/15/2020 5:22:09 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Trump20162020

I think the taunting thing was a set up, and therefore the action that followed premeditated. “Mace me and see what happens.”


9 posted on 10/15/2020 5:27:19 PM PDT by Fido969
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To: Trump20162020
I don’t think so. First-degree is premeditated, second ‘heat of passion.’

News article this morning somewhere that speaks of the killing maybe was a targeted hit job.

11 posted on 10/15/2020 5:31:56 PM PDT by Ron H. (True Freedom of speech is at Gab.com)
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To: Trump20162020
I personally think Dolloff didn’t go there planning to shoot anyone,

I personally think you are wrong.

Too much planning to get him to that location and to engage in provocation of the man he shot.

13 posted on 10/15/2020 5:39:27 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (And lead us not into hysteria, but deliver us from the handwashers. Amen!)
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To: Trump20162020

The three (shooter, instigator wearing Black Guns Matter tee, and the producer from 9news) were seen huddling before the incident. I am curious about their conversation


17 posted on 10/15/2020 6:05:42 PM PDT by griswold3 (Democratic Socialism is Slavery by Mob Rule)
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To: Trump20162020

Like the boy that shot the armed guy charging him.
That was self defense.


20 posted on 10/15/2020 6:06:47 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U
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To: Trump20162020

BS. He went there looking to shoot a Trump supporter.


27 posted on 10/15/2020 6:26:42 PM PDT by Dogbert41
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To: Trump20162020

He got slapped because he first reached into the victim’s jacket/vest.


34 posted on 10/15/2020 7:54:31 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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