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Debate was a blown opportunity for Trump
Washington Times ^ | September 30, 2020 | Editorial

Posted on 09/30/2020 6:21:08 AM PDT by lasereye

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To: Zhang Fei

I will argue that the presstitute media is pretty much restricted to the left wing. There is enough right wing media to counter.

First of all, there are more of them than us. That is easily shown by the fact Hillary won the popular vote. Those voters are the leftwing media audience. They pay for the supporting ads. Some rationalize that is not true but they are self deluded

Fox News has severely eroded the power of the leftists. Although there are many here who whine and bitch and moan about Fox News, the fact is that they are a strong supporter of President Trump. He is allowed on and given his head to pretty much unfiltered or unimpeded. Every morning at least one of his messengers delivers the message of the day in the pure form.

The mainstream is in fact literally dying as viewers and readers die. The young, say those under 50 or 45 get their news elsewhere.


161 posted on 09/30/2020 11:16:27 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12) t Zip-a-dee-doo-dah, zip-a-dee-ay My, oh, my, what a wonderful day)
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To: Fresh Wind

[The end justifies the means.

Got it.]


Spare me the sanctimony. If you had any scruples about Trump’s personal conduct, you wouldn’t have voted for him over *any* of the other candidates for the GOP nomination. It’s amusing to hear about Trump supporters who put him on a pedestal. I have no illusions about him. What I like about him isn’t that he’s faithful to his wife - he isn’t. It’s that - so far - he’s only screwed his wife, and been largely faithful to his voters. McCain, Romney and Bush were faithful to their wives, but screwed their voters. While it would be nice to have GOP pols who were both, sometimes you only get some of what you want.


162 posted on 09/30/2020 11:17:57 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: bert

[Fox News has severely eroded the power of the leftists.]


Fox News is a minor player in the news business. Over the air broadcast news audiences dwarf Fox News 6 to 1. Add up all the cable news channels, and it’s 8 to 1 in favor of the liberal media.


163 posted on 09/30/2020 11:23:07 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: bert

https://www.forbes.com/sites/bradadgate/2020/05/13/tv-news-ratings-remain-strong-but-pandemic-fatigue-seems-to-be-setting-in/#48a02ab76f12


164 posted on 09/30/2020 11:25:37 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: LeonardFMason

The low IQ voter hears about Coronavirus, right? Do you think that matters to them? Trump has been continually hammered on that.

The low IQ’s DON’T all know about Trump closing off flights from China or Biden and Democrats objecting. The Democrats do a very good job of saying things in a way that low IQ voters understand. They’re good at that. Even Biden did a reasonably good job of that last night.

Why is this so mysterious to you?


165 posted on 09/30/2020 11:34:15 AM PDT by lasereye
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To: nathanbedford

Mika Brzezinski Says Trump ‘Firebombed’ The Debate, Says She Would Nix Future Debates If She Were ‘Team Biden’ https://t.co/Yn61hOJDkZ— Daily Caller (@DailyCaller) September 30, 2020

Another fixture from the left NOT crowing about a Biden victory.
166 posted on 09/30/2020 11:41:30 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: nathanbedford

>>What I said in real time:

>>I don’t like to say this, I’m distressed to have to say this, but candor requires me to say that Trump entered the debate with the overwhelming advantage of incumbency As President of the United States Of America and left the debate a brawler who was behind in the Real Clear Average of polls. Biden entered the debate as a demented septuagenarian ahead in the polls and left the debate a viable candidate for president of the United States in possession of his faculties ahead in the Real Clear average of polls.

>>Trump’s objective was to turn the polls around, I believe he failed to do that tonight. Biden’s objective was to appear presidential rather than demented and to safeguard his lead in the polls, I believe he did that.

I’m with General Forrest’s analysis. It is understandable that Trump brings the anger of 3 years of unrelenting pitched warfare by the Dems and their crypto-neocon oligarch think tank overseers. But, dude, yer on TV and you need to understand how the TV cameras destroyed Sen. McCarthy and Richard Nixon. Be careful.


167 posted on 09/30/2020 11:43:56 AM PDT by Yollopoliuhqui
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To: nathanbedford

>>Thank you.

>>For the record I will tell you because you post in good faith that I live in Bavaria and often visit my children in the states.

If I were living in Bavaria it would be within walking distance to the Andechs Monastery.


168 posted on 09/30/2020 12:01:01 PM PDT by Yollopoliuhqui
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To: Zhang Fei
Us or them.

Your choice.

169 posted on 09/30/2020 12:28:39 PM PDT by Fresh Wind (When seconds count, social workers are days away.)
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To: blueunicorn6

If you have to ask that, there is no hope for you.


170 posted on 09/30/2020 12:29:20 PM PDT by Fresh Wind (When seconds count, social workers are days away.)
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To: kevao

Until this week, I had never heard of Proud Boys. And I’m probably more informed than 98% of people. Where did these guys come from all of a sudden?


They’ve been around - as far as I recollect, 2017 - as a counterpoint to BLM. I’ve not seen anything that shows them as racist, but ANTIFA constantly calls them such, and of course not being racist is now considered racist.


Proud Boys‘ values center on the following tenets:

Minimal Government
Maximum Freedom
Anti-Political Correctness
Anti-Drug War
Closed Borders
Anti-Racial Guilt
Anti-Racism
Pro-Free Speech (1st Amendment)
Pro-Gun Rights (2nd Amendment)
Glorifying the Entrepreneur
Venerating the Housewife
Reinstating a Spirit of Western Chauvinism


171 posted on 09/30/2020 12:41:27 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Cowboy Bob

Disproved, or debunked, really means embargoed by the media.


172 posted on 09/30/2020 12:49:39 PM PDT by OKSooner (We are not allowed to criticize George Soros.)
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To: Fresh Wind

If you have to write that, then you are a Chicken.


173 posted on 09/30/2020 1:39:57 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer”)
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To: lasereye

I would have liked to see President Trump call out Biden on his first lie: “That’s lie number one!” From then on, as Biden keeps up his lies, just call out “Two”, “Three”, “Four”. People will know what he’s talking about - and - it would probably rattle Biden.


174 posted on 09/30/2020 2:29:31 PM PDT by Oatka
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To: blueunicorn6

Where do you live?


175 posted on 09/30/2020 3:01:47 PM PDT by Fresh Wind (When seconds count, social workers are days away.)
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To: lasereye

Trump has talked about Coronavirus and shutting down travel THOUSANDS of times. Your contention is there are thousands and thousands of LOW IQ voters who NEVER heard this AND, after avoiding/ignoring this news for 6 months, are going to tune into a debate and hear it for the first time?

I just don’t buy that or the idea there is a significant number of folks yet to be convinced who to vote for at this point.


176 posted on 09/30/2020 3:47:10 PM PDT by LeonardFMason
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To: Fresh Wind

Germany

Nathan Forrest Gump and I are neighbors.


177 posted on 09/30/2020 4:04:00 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer”)
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