Debate was a blown opportunity for Trump

Washington Times ^ | September 30, 2020 | Editorial

[LeonardFMason]

“You’ve never heard of low information voters? Obama rode them to reelection in 2012. They were at the center of his campaign strategy.”

Sorry they are not “low information”. They are LOW IQ. If Trump winning is dependent on winning the LOW IQ voter we are lost already.

[Fresh Wind]

Portland’s sheriff endorsed him. I think it was a great lie, and no one will hear the truth.

There's no such thing as a "great lie", unless you're talking about golf.

Anyway, the endorsement claim is one. I knew you would cite that, though it might have been a case of Trump thinking of another sheriff when he said it in the heat of battle.

On the other hand, Maddow claims Trump spewed "a monstrous cavalcade of obscene lies". I hope you're not an agreement with her.

Seems to me, the cavalcade of lies came out of Biden's mouth, not Trump's.

[Zhang Fei]

[We in the base understand and share the frustration over moderators’ thumbs on the scale. But we should also be wary that we don’t be seen to be whining about it.]

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Back in Reagan’s day, sure. Today, it’s just standard protocol the audience expects from the participants. Anyone who doesn’t knock the moderator’s teeth back into his throat is viewed as being guilty of the moderator’s insinuations. Slick Willy’s dalliance with Lewinsky paved the road for Trump’s nomination and election. Very little is off-limits any more. Heck - Democrats are letting arsonists and looters out of jail not just without bail, but without charging them. It’s a new world in the New World.

[grey_whiskers]

I hope your unscientific, Internet flash poll is more than a flash in the pan.

Whatever evidentiary value it *does* possess, goes against your fears that Trump blew the debate and lost precious time and votes.

Note that the CNN Poll which favored Biden, had its thumb on the scales as much as Chris Wallace did. (Oversampling Spanish speakers (likely non-citizens therefore ineligible to vote lawfully), and oversampling Dems.)

[lasereye]

Trump should concede all the low IQ voters to Biden? Do their votes not count?

[bert]

You are totally wrong about Fox News. The FRee Republic accepted dogme is wrong. The antiFox bigots obviously don’t watch and are ignorant of the present reality

[LeonardFMason]

Please explain HOW you appeal to LOW IQ voters?

What does he say? What is important to the LOW IQ voter?

Do you know?

[bert]

Low IQ voters did not watch the debates, will not watch the debates and do not understand any of whet transpired.

I question the fact there re actually or at least many low IQ voters. Half of eligible Americans don’t vote at all

If the low IQ voters cast a vote it is more than likely accomplished by someone taking advantage of them

[Zhang Fei]

[On the other hand, Maddow claims Trump spewed “a monstrous cavalcade of obscene lies”. I hope you’re not an agreement with her.

Seems to me, the cavalcade of lies came out of Biden’s mouth, not Trump’s. ]

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I wasn’t keeping count of his lies because I don’t really care how many he spouted, and I won’t bother examining his debate transcript for more fibs because it’s a waste of time. The Portland thing I knew was a lie when I heard it because it just jumped out at me. As far as I’m concerned, if every single word Trump uttered was a lie, that would be fine with me. Because ultimately, it comes down to a decision between Trump and party of unilateral disarmament and violent criminals. And that’s the point Trump needs to hammer home relentlessly.

[lasereye]

By explaining things better. He didn’t explain things very well.

[bert]

He didn’t have time to espotulate to the point you could understand

[Fresh Wind]

If you click on nathan’s name, you get to his personal home page, then you click on the flag, and you find out. It takes only a few seconds.

It’s not like it’s some deep, dark secret.

[LeonardFMason]

Explain WHAT? WHAT matters to the LOW IQ voter?

If they aren’t interested enough to know what is going on in the country WHAT can you talk about?

[caww]

Well it was exhausting listening that's for sure.....as Wallace totally lost control of the stage and himself from the start and became the third party debating, which he had no business doing.... Even getting chummy with Biden along the way..which was a clear display of his bias seen and noted by many other than myself.

They need to stop using media pundits as moderators as I see it, get people who are accustomed to moderating debates so that neither candidate has to be compelled to say...” I guess I'm debating you too, not surprising” as Trump did.

Trump got a raw deal from the get go. Though I think he believed Wallace might be fair.....he wasn't.

[Zhang Fei]

[They need to stop using media pundits as moderators as I see it]

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Can’t be helped. Democrats need the help from the referee, and the GOP needs the free media. No debates, no free (and mostly unfiltered, if you talk over the Democratic moderator) media. The big issue of our day is the liberal media’s stranglehold over the news and its extreme left-wing bias. It’s like Pravda for the Democrats. The debates are one of the GOP’s few opportunities to speak directly to the electorate on the eve of the elections.

[nathanbedford]

Thank you for describing my state of mind as you did.

Nathan

[Fresh Wind]

The end justifies the means.

Got it.

[Zhang Fei]

[The end justifies the means.

Got it.]

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Us or them.

[oldbill]

The Washington Times was once the conservative alternative to the Washington Post.

Now, like Fox News, it is gradually but most certainly drifting leftward.

Its lead “reporters”, like Steven Dinan who is pro-illegal immigration, and Seth McLaughlin, who is never-Trump, and others on the reportorial and editorial staff seem to be in a race with Fox News to become the Post and CNN.

[blueunicorn6]

What flag is that, Fresh?