Posted on 09/30/2020 6:21:08 AM PDT by lasereye
There were other examples, such as on the Green New Deal and tax policy, on which Trump failed to land obvious blows because he was too busy interrupting with pointless cracks.
I agree with this.
He often set up attacks only to fall back into repeating phrases that didnt communicate to outsiders what he was talking about.
This is correct IMO. For example, when Trump talked about how he had stopped travel from China and Biden had criticized him for it, he didn't make it clear what he was talking about. If you didn't already know about it, it didn't mean anything.
Trump was able to make some good points too, but some of the time it was like a boxer throwing punches that completely miss. He was off his game.
Lost opportunity for what? These debates never move the needle at all.
Today people are taking about the Trump Wallace debate. It is as if Biden wasnt even there.
Trump’s attacks put Biden on the defensive all night long. Biden tried to attack with his defense of BEAU...only to ge tknocked back by Trump’s attack on Hunter. All Biden could say was “It was disproved”...without offering any evidence.
President Trump missed on a couple of issues which would have put this debate win securely in his pocket. But Biden looked old, weak, and not presidential which did not attract any new voters.
The debates are NOT a time to learn policy. You can learn that from reading about them online or simply researching yourself.
Anyone who watches debates to get policy is lazy or just not very bright.
In either case, those kind of people are appealed to by an aggressive, combative personality.
Now do I think Trump did great....no.
Be recent polls that I’ve seen indicate that lots of other people felt like he won. And this attitude is almost entirely due to his feistiness and assertiveness, even if it comes off looking like bullying.
I have no idea why so many people clutch pearls over Trump. He knows exactly what he is doing. People saw “toxic” masculinity on display and once they settle down they will realize that the cadaver is not going to “protect them” and Trump is the guy who will...
I agree with this assessment. IF there is another debate, Trump needs some make-up. He wasnt orange man last night. He was red man with a scowling face.
I understand Trump is angry, but his base is with him no matter what. He should at least get rid of that scowl, crack a smile every now and then and have some fun. Letting Joe complete a sentence so that hell trip over his tongue and tell more lies would be a good strategy.
Im afraid he lost more fence sitting women with his behavior and he really needs them. I cant imagine who will be chosen as the next moderator since Wallace was supposed to be so fair and was anything but! He was AWFUL.
Trump’s people should have NEVER agreed to a debate without getting 2 to 3 minutes for opening statements. Trump could have listed all of his accomplishments and gone into detail about Joe and Hunter Bidens selling out our country. Ive never seen a debate where opening statements werent allowed and that was a HUGE mistake.
If some idiot “journalist” thinks they could have given a perfect performance and hit every topic just so perfectly, then let the arrogance idiot run for office and show us all how it’s down.
Monday Morning Armchair Quarterbacks don’t actually win football games.
And to the credit of Biden's pharmacist, he was juiced enough to not fall asleep or completely lose it.
HUH, I will: 1) Biden refused to say he wouldn't pack the court, that should help the GOP senators if they use it. 2) Biden refused to denounce Antifa, calling them an idea as they burn down cities and cause billions in damage. 3) Biden was confused about the Green new deal, saying it would pay for itself when it will cost taxpayers 10 Trillion 4) Biden fumbled for words, indicating his mental confusion 5) Biden made empty political promises, that's what people will forget because he's been promising and not delivering for 47 years when Trump did more in 47 months.
It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the nab who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and swat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat Theodore Roosevelt
I disagree. They can, and do, move the needle. Perhaps not enough to change much, but impressions count. I am a staunch Trump supporter, but I'm not happy this morning.
I watched the debate last night. Biden did better than I expected and I was really disappointed in Trump. He came off as a rude, interrupting, bully. From what I've seen, there is no discussion today about the facts that were presented, only that Trump's behavior was horrible. I think Chris Wallace was hardly unbiased and I was stunned to hear that Wallace was allowed to select the questions. Those questions should be fielded by BOTH candidates, so how does Trump's tax return fit in to a Biden response? It doesn't, yet he asked it. Trump's response was horrible, as he didn't answer the question other than to say he "paid millions". What he should have said was that, like every American, he tries to minimize his tax bill within the constraints of the Tax Code. He should have pointed out that Joe has had 47 years to affect the Tax Code, but has left it with loop holes so rich people could donate to Democrat candidates.
Knowing Trump's personality, he is not going to change his style of interrupting during the debate. HE should propose that each person is in their own room with a camera, monitor, and mic. When the other person is responding, the opponent's mic is turned off. In earlier debates I've watched, they took notes while the other person talked and then responded to those notes. Trump needs to learn to do that instead of interrupting. The media is portraying him as a bully. Not good.
More humor would be nice, make fun of Joe.
In our reality show world, we want screaming and one person to exit the stage crying. Trump ...Mission accomplished and onto a big win in November.
Some you really need to get a life and switch your locus of control over external things like politics to make you feel better about your own life. I'll be just fine even if Biden wins. Can some of you say that?
The one and only regret I have with President Trump’s debate performance last night is that he didn’t clearly, succinctly, and forcibly articulate that he totally condemns White Supremacists.
He should have clearly and loudly done so, then turned to Sleepy, Creepy, Slow Joe and said “Now, Joe, do you condemn ANTIFA?”
Those very words grace my desk at work.
Wallace's bias was most evident in two ways:
As a debate moderator, Wallace's big problem is that he treats it like a Sunday show interview.
Wallace winds up a big question with a preamble using prior quotes and recent event references, and then tries to string all of that into a "gotcha" question.
The problem is that in a debate, that takes up too much time and the debaters are anxious to get going. As soon as Wallace says something incomplete or out of context, President Trump jumped in to dispute the question.
It's Wallace's own fault for not setting up a simple question and letting the candidates take turns answering. When Wallace asks Trump about "$750 per year income tax," how can Biden fairly answer that question other than to use it to attack Trump?
If Wallace asked "What is your opinion on releasing personal information like tax returns and medical records?" to each of them, that would be a simple and fair question. But he doesn't do that.
-PJ
“Blown opportunity” ?
Leave Kamala out of this!
You will not be fine if Biden wins.
If Biden wins, America will be gone
You need to pay attention
Biden kicked Paul Ryan’s butt in exactly the same manner that Trump mauled Biden. Basically, debates are about who can lie most convincingly in a relaxed and confident manner. Biden was leagues ahead in that respect. In a just world, that would mean he not only lost the debate in the sense of having voters turn against the Obama campaign, but was dropped from the ticket due to the sheer egregiousness of his deceit, ending his political career right there and then. Instead, he got an opportunity to be the oldest candidate to win the White House ever.
If its any consolation, Bidens up against Trump, who can lie just as convincingly, but with a heck of a lot more charisma. And thats what Im banking on to get Trump over the hump. Prior to the debate, the media blackout meant only hard core right-wingers and Washington insiders had heard about Moscow’s bribe to Joe routed through Hunter. Now, anyone who watched the debate knows about it.
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