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Presidential Debate #1: Joe Biden Denies Antifa Organizations Exist
Townhall ^ | 09/29/2020 | Julio Rosas

Posted on 09/29/2020 8:49:51 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

Former Democratic Vice President Joe Biden denied the existence of organized Antifa groups during the first presidential debate in Cleveland, Ohio on Tuesday.

Fox News anchor Chris Wallace had asked President Trump if he was willing "to condemn white supremacists and militia groups, and to say that they need to stand down and not add to the violence in a number of these cities, as we saw in Kenosha and as we’ve seen in Portland?"

"Sure, I'm willing to do that. I would say almost everything I see is from the left-wing, not from the right-wing," Trump replied, telling the Proud Boys to "stand back and stand by."

"But I tell you what, somebody has got to do something about Antifa and the left because this is not a right-wing problem, this is a left-wing problem," Trump added.

"Antifa is an idea, not an organization, that's what his FBI director said," Biden replied.

"Antifa is a dangerous, radical group...they'll overthrow you," Trump said to Biden.

FBI Director Christopher Wray did say his agency is investigating those who identify as Antifa while committing serious crimes.

"Antifa is a real thing. It's not a group or an organization. It's a movement, or an ideology may be one way of thinking of it and we have quite a number, and I've said this quite consistently since my first time appearing before this committee, we have any number of properly predicated investigations into what we would describe as violent anarchist extremists and some of those individuals self-identify with Antifa," Wray said.

"People are pouring through all of the video trying to identify people to hold people accountable," Attorney General Bill Barr said during an interview with Townhall. "I think Antifa and Antifa like groups are at the center of it."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: antifa; debate; joebiden; whoops
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1 posted on 09/29/2020 8:49:51 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

BIDEN: “Imagine there’s no Antifa, its easy if you try...”


2 posted on 09/29/2020 8:52:10 PM PDT by frogjerk
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To: SeekAndFind

There were a lot of moments where Biden bombed on the answers.


3 posted on 09/29/2020 8:53:44 PM PDT by hawkaw
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To: SeekAndFind
Lies notwithstanding, I think that Biden lost the debate on the following points:

The Antifa thing.
Not having an answer to the support from law enforcement question.
Waffling on the Green New Deal. He first says he doesn't support it, but that it will pay for itself.

Calling President Trump a clown and telling him to shut up.

Trump had to debate two people. Trump clearly wins in my book.

4 posted on 09/29/2020 8:54:19 PM PDT by fhayek
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To: frogjerk

Imagine all the people. Lying for Joe biden...


5 posted on 09/29/2020 8:55:28 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Some of the folks around these parts have been sniffing super flu.)
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To: hawkaw

Unfortunately, who is going to tell the American people about his bombs? Most people are uninformed and don’t know when he was spinning yarns and telling tall tales. The press won’t do it.


6 posted on 09/29/2020 8:56:27 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom ("And oft conducted by historic truth, We tread the long extent of backward time)
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To: SeekAndFind

okay, outright deliberate lie right there


7 posted on 09/29/2020 8:56:42 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: fhayek

in any debate trump has to debate the libtard politican and the libtard media controller


8 posted on 09/29/2020 8:57:42 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: fhayek

The “Green New Deal” was a classic Biden flip-flop in a couple of sentences!

Biden first talked about what the Green New Deal will do. Then Wallace asked “You support the Green New Deal?” Biden then immediately says “No.” It was unbelievable and mind-boggling. But it’s like so many other Biden flip-flops like fracking. He seems unperturbed by the fact that there are videos of his dual positions on things.


9 posted on 09/29/2020 9:01:08 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom ("And oft conducted by historic truth, We tread the long extent of backward time)
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To: SeekAndFind

I expected Townhall to know the difference between pouring and poring.


10 posted on 09/29/2020 9:02:21 PM PDT by davius (Kapo Schwartz György as Ceausescu)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

I am hoping that people watching the debates will figure it out and give Trump Amo as he moves forward.


11 posted on 09/29/2020 9:06:22 PM PDT by hawkaw
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Waffling on the Green New Deal. He first says he doesn't support it, but that it will pay for itself.

And then he disavowed it a second time.

12 posted on 09/29/2020 9:16:06 PM PDT by TigersEye (In all things ... trigger discipline.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Ideas usually don’t have logos


13 posted on 09/29/2020 9:19:05 PM PDT by william clark (Ecclesiastes 10:2)
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To: SeekAndFind

When Biden said The Green New Deal will “pay for itself”, he’s admitting that The Green New Deal will be implemented under a Democrat president.


14 posted on 09/29/2020 9:21:21 PM PDT by convoter2016
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To: Secret Agent Man

RE: okay, outright deliberate lie there

Or Joe might just be clueless.


15 posted on 09/29/2020 9:23:15 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: william clark

Ideas don’t burn down cities.


16 posted on 09/29/2020 10:46:08 PM PDT by Flick Lives (My work's illegal, but at least it's honest. - Capt. Malcolm Reynolds)
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To: SeekAndFind

To deny the existence of anQUEEFa is so reminiscent of how the Gambino’s, Columbo’s, Luciano’s, Gotti’s etc denied the existence of the mafia.


17 posted on 09/30/2020 1:00:21 AM PDT by Impala64ssa (Virtue signalling is no virtue)
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To: SeekAndFind

bttt


18 posted on 09/30/2020 1:01:52 AM PDT by Pajamajan ( Pray for our nation. Thank the Lord for everything you have. Don't wait. Do it today.)
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Moderator Trump also asked Biden/Wallace if he(they) supported Bernie's Socialized medicine and The Green New deal. Joe said no.

Bet Bernie's voters are not happy about that, since democrats screwed him out of the nomination again.

19 posted on 09/30/2020 1:09:28 AM PDT by Pajamajan ( Pray for our nation. Thank the Lord for everything you have. Don't wait. Do it today.)
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To: Pajamajan

LOL!

After tonight, I actually know more about Chris Wallace’s positions on the issues than I do Joe Binden’s!

And that’s no criticism of Wallace. It was clearly his goal to save Biden from committing to anything at all, and he did a great job at that.


20 posted on 09/30/2020 1:14:08 AM PDT by kevao (BIBLICAL JESUS: Give your money to the poor. SOCIALIST JESUS: Give your neighbor's money to the poor)
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