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Who flipped on the veto override? 24 Democratic votes sustained Gov. Wolf’s veto on high school sports bill
Pennlive ^ | 23 September A.D. 2020 | Jan Murphy

Posted on 09/23/2020 4:22:59 PM PDT by lightman

After Wednesday’s failed House attempt to override Gov. Tom Wolf’s veto of a bipartisan-backed bill designed to give local school officials the final say on holding sports and setting crowd limits, some were left scratching their heads.

How could a bill that passed the House by a 155-47 fall short of the 135 votes needed to override the governor’s veto?

The answer: 24 of the Democratic legislators who voted “yes” on the bill originally apparently had a change of heart. One of the bill’s original supporters, Rep Mark Rozzi, D-Berks County, was absent on Wednesday.

House Majority Leader Kerry Benninghoff, R-Centre County, boasted that all House Republicans stood united in their support of the bill and for overriding the veto. But the effort failed because some Democrats decided to “cave to political pressure.”

“Until more Democrats are willing to stand up for the people of Pennsylvania instead of standing with their political party or their governor, the commonwealth will remain mired in the governor’s emergency rule,” Benninghoff said.

The bill, which also passed the Senate with a veto-proof majority, would have invalidated the governor’s order on attendance at school sports and extracurricular activities. The Wolf administration had limited schools to 25 people at indoor events and 250 at outdoor contests to control the spread of the coronavirus. Even with those limits, attendance was limited to no more than 50% of the maximum capacity.

Wolf issued a statement Wednesday afternoon thanking Democrats for standing with him and “showing a commitment to working collaboratively to protect the people of Pennsylvania during this ongoing public health crisis. Pennsylvanians should be thankful as well.”

He referred to the veto override attempt as “a superfluous bill" that was unnecessary since schools already have the authority to decide whether to hold sports and his administration has no intention to change that.

U.S. Western District Judge William Stickman IV last week declared the governor’s limits on social gatherings to be unconstitutional. This week, the judge denied the Wolf Administration’s to stay that ruling pending appeal.

Until there’s a ruling on the appeal, the governor and his team are urging schools to voluntarily comply with those limits and issued guidance last Friday indicating as much.

Democrats explained their change of heart about supporting the high school sports bill.

House Democratic Leader Frank Dermody of Allegheny County, fell into that category. He told the Pennsylvania Capital-Star, Wolf is "our governor. He vetoed it, and I’m the Democratic leader, ... I am not going to override the governor’s veto.”

Rep. Michael Schlossberg, D-Lehigh County, told the Morning Call the bill “did more than was originally advertised” as his reason for flipping his vote.

State Rep. Patty Kim, D-Dauphin County, declined comment on her rationale for changing her mind on the bill Wednesday.

But those who like to venture a guess on why Kim and Schlossberg had a change of heart pointed to the fact that they were among the 14 Democrats who flipped are politically safe because they happen to be uncontested in their re-election bid this November.

They others are: Reps. Austin Davis of Allegheny County, Dan Deasy of Allegheny County, Michael Driscoll of Philadelphia, Robert Freeman of Northampton County, Patrick Harkins of Erie County, Robert Merski of Erie County, Dan Miller of Allegheny County, Ed Neilson of Philadelphia, Eddie Day Pashinski of Luzerne County, Adam Ravenstahl of Allegheny County, Peter Schweyer of Lehigh County, and Melissa Shusterman of Chester County.

The other so-called flippers aside from Dermody were: Tina Davis of Bucks County, Carol Hill-Evans of York County, John Galloway of Bucks County, Neal Goodman of Schuylkill County, Jeanne McNeill of Lehigh County, Steve Samuelson of Northampton County, Wendy Ullman of Philadelphia, Dan Williams of Chester County and Michael Zabel of Delaware County.

Rep. Barb Gleim, R-Cumberland County, issued a statement saying Wednesday’s vote may not be the final word on this bill.

“To school parents and student athletes who had hoped for a different outcome, a reconsideration motion was filed," which allows for a future override attempt to occur, Gleim said. "We intend to bring this up again. There will be continued pressure on this matter, so that the majority of constituents can be heard.”

Even amidst the failure of the veto override and the federal judge denying a stay of his ruling, confusion exists over the limits of school sports and extracurricular activities.

The Pennsylvania School Boards Association said its review of the federal court ruling leads to one conclusion: schools still have no choice but to adhere to Wolf’s limits on the size of gatherings.

“Judge Stickman’s ruling does not have any effect on gathering size limits for high school athletic events, one way of the other, whether or not the ruling is stayed pending appeal, overturned or upheld,” according to a statement issued on Wednesday from PSBA’s legal team. “The judge’s ruling about the constitutionality of the governor’s gathering size limits is limited to political or other expressive activities protected by the First Amendment. There is really not a plausible case to be made that there is a First Amendment right to attend a high school football game or to have as many people attend as the team or school may want."

The statement goes on: “Thus, no matter what happens in that court case, it will have no effect on the governor’s gathering limits as they affect spectators at high school athletic events.”

It was unclear late Wednesday afternoon whether the school boards organization is distributing that guidance to school officials. However, it goes against House Republican lawyers’ interpretation of the federal judge’s ruling.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: override; pennsylvania; reopen; schoolsports; sports; tommiethecommie; tomwolf
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Hope the threatened veto of the restaurant capacity bill (which today cleared both chambers with strong majorities) doesn't meet the same fate.

My suspicion is that since the courts have rendered the spectator capacity limits null the Dems didn't want to make this bill the hill to die on.

Maybe they will grow a pair for the restaurant bill!

1 posted on 09/23/2020 4:22:59 PM PDT by lightman
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To: fatima; Fresh Wind; st.eqed; xsmommy; House Atreides; Nowhere Man; PaulZe; brityank; Physicist; ...

Pennsylvania Ping!

Please ping me with articles of interest.

FReepmail me to be added to the list

2 posted on 09/23/2020 4:23:51 PM PDT by lightman (I am a binary Trinitarian. Deal with it!)
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To: lightman

Nope. You actually want this to happen again.

People will not stop voting Democrat until they feel the pain Democrats cause.


3 posted on 09/23/2020 4:28:51 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: lightman

To paraphrase John Kerry “I voted for the sports before I voted against the sports”.


4 posted on 09/23/2020 4:29:15 PM PDT by Lockbox
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To: Spktyr

Being from Philly I can tell you this is really going to start pissing off all those Pennsylvania Democrats

Republicans already know how stupid Democrats are


5 posted on 09/23/2020 4:30:11 PM PDT by Truthoverpower (The guv-mint you get is the Trump winning express ! Yea haw ! Trump Pence II! Save America again)
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To: lightman

Why they heck do they need 202 people in the PA state legislature? California only has 80.


6 posted on 09/23/2020 4:32:01 PM PDT by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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To: lightman
The muslim TAKIYA

It's OK to lie to further Islam, is the principle.

democrats have been infiltrated with progressing brain disease.

7 posted on 09/23/2020 4:32:08 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true.... I have no proof, but they're true.)
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To: monkeyshine

Their (PA) legislature has a GOP majority. California’s doesn’t. Also remember that PA once was a much larger state than CA.


8 posted on 09/23/2020 4:36:57 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Want Stalinazism More ? PLUGS-WHORE 2020 !)
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To: Spktyr

Hey you idiot Pennsylvanians, if you want this bull crap to cease, just freakin’ IGNORE Wolf’s illegal and unconstitutional orders. What the hell is he going to do? Arrest millions of people?

To quote Scranton’s favorite son, “C’mon, man.”


9 posted on 09/23/2020 4:49:05 PM PDT by Walrus (I do not consent)
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To: lightman
Nothing better than the threat of death to you, your family, and your friends...

That has always (at least in my lifetime) been an important communist/democrat strategy...
If it ain't broke, don't fix it...

10 posted on 09/23/2020 4:53:45 PM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is Sam Adams now that we desperately need him)
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To: lightman

Change of heart.

Snort.

Nice euphemism.


11 posted on 09/23/2020 4:53:51 PM PDT by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds.)
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To: lightman

Sick of these democrats. Tomorrow night our Tea Party is having an event in Hellertown with Sheriff David Clark & it has to be in a park. It gets dark so early. Hoping they will have good lighting.


12 posted on 09/23/2020 4:54:27 PM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: Truthoverpower

[Being from Philly I can tell you this is really going to start pissing off all those Pennsylvania Democrats]


Are there Democrat voters who are unhappy about the shutdown?


13 posted on 09/23/2020 4:54:46 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: Walrus

I think Wolf took away someone’s liquor license who opened.


14 posted on 09/23/2020 4:56:47 PM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: lightman

What’s really disturbing is that they can take away your freedoms without any debate or vote, but there has to be a vote to get them back.


15 posted on 09/23/2020 4:57:11 PM PDT by Sicon ("All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others." - G. Orwell)
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To: Sicon

Mark those who voted not to override for election retaliation in the future. Simply stupid too not allow family and spectators to view sports. sheesh


16 posted on 09/23/2020 5:07:49 PM PDT by V V Camp Enari 67-68 (Viet Vet)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
Don't forget that the pissant State of New Hampshire has 400 members in their house. You can look it up.

Pennsylvania has discussed reducing the size of our legislature, but has never gotten anywhere. I think it is part of the psyche at least in the original 13 that we expect to know our legislators, especially in New England but only somewhat diminishing as you move southward.

17 posted on 09/23/2020 5:08:39 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (The politicized state destroys aspects of civil society, human kindness and private charity.)
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To: Walrus

some are the restaurant we were in last week has capacity of 500 with banquet rooms. They put new booths in and are not seating every other one.


18 posted on 09/23/2020 5:17:26 PM PDT by kvanbrunt2 (spooks won on day 76)
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To: monkeyshine

“””Why they heck do they need 202 people in the PA state legislature? California only has 80.”””””””””

In California 80 crazy liberals is all they need.


19 posted on 09/23/2020 5:19:04 PM PDT by shelterguy
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To: lightman

looks like they finally got the desired asking price for their vote


20 posted on 09/23/2020 5:22:05 PM PDT by disclaimer
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