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To: rxsid

BLM response aside, no-knock warrants should not be allowed. Anything that resembles a no-knock warrant, like what supposedly occurred here, should not be allowed. If the surprise raid is that important, surround the house or building or compound, and then turn on the lights and sirens and loudspeakers, and give the parties inside the chance to give up, especially if they target the wrong house and their are uninvolved civilians inside.

If someone knocks in the door on my home unannounced, I would take that to be an intruder with intent to do harm. Authorities should never put someone in the position to choose between defending their life or family or trusting that its only the police who just busted their door down at 1 am in the morning.


16 posted on 09/23/2020 10:48:22 AM PDT by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them.)
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To: Magnum44

Ic agree, no-knock entry should only be allowed in a hostage type situation.


28 posted on 09/23/2020 10:53:43 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: Magnum44
BLM response aside, no-knock warrants should not be allowed...If someone knocks in the door on my home unannounced, I would take that to be an intruder with intent to do harm.

I tend to agree, though there might be a place for a no-knock in some terrorism cases.

39 posted on 09/23/2020 10:59:08 AM PDT by SJackson (wondered...what 10 Commandments would have looked like if Moses had run them through..Congress, RR)
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To: Magnum44

Exactly. Many people, including white people and children, are killed during these no knock warrants. And sometimes they’d gone to the wrong address or followed a lead by someone that doesn’t like the subject. Rand Paul has a bill to make these warrants illegal.


40 posted on 09/23/2020 10:59:22 AM PDT by Rusty0604 (2020 four more years!)
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To: Magnum44
"no-knock warrants should not be allowed"

Not for a drug case anyway.

Just spit-ballin here but there may be a scenario were that would be appropriate. Say, for example, a known international terrorist is holed up in a house in miami and credible information has it they planted a device that's going to go off in the {building} and they need to try and take them alive before the suspect gets to a weapon.

That aside, it's ironic in this case that the officers knocked first (which alerted the bf and gave him enough time to get his gun) prior to using the ram to bust open the door. So the "no knock" was actually a knock. [1]

43 posted on 09/23/2020 11:00:38 AM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: Magnum44

This is about the only thing that Burn Loot Murder has right. No Knock entry is dangerous.

I agree, people at 1 AM are going to believe it’s a home invasion, and try to defend themselves. Better to surround the home and give them a chance to give up first. Besides,every now and again they will be at the wrong door.


45 posted on 09/23/2020 11:01:53 AM PDT by Pete Dovgan
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To: Magnum44

“If someone knocks in the door on my home unannounced, I would take that to be an intruder with intent to do harm.”

Yes. That is the normal human response. Whoever came up with no-knock warrants deserves to have one served on him at least yearly.


49 posted on 09/23/2020 11:03:45 AM PDT by odawg
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To: Magnum44

“If someone knocks in the door on my home unannounced, I would take that to be an intruder with intent to do harm. Authorities should never put someone in the position to choose between defending their life or family or trusting that its only the police who just busted their door down at 1 am in the morning.”

Yup. Breaking into someone’s home in the dead of night should trigger a few “what could possibly go wrong?” thoughts by anyone who does it, including police.


51 posted on 09/23/2020 11:03:55 AM PDT by LouieFisk
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To: Magnum44

I agree these warrants are just asking for things to go wrong and need to be abolished for good. Anyone breaking down a door in the middle of the night is going to be thought to be an intruder, not the police. Even if they announce themselves, in the dark, breaking in...nope I wouldn’t believe it.


53 posted on 09/23/2020 11:04:50 AM PDT by EBH (My family fought for Liberty in 1776 and we will do so again. God Save the Republic.)
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