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If anything, America has an under-incarceration problem
The Spectator ^ | August 29, 2020 | Pedro L. Gonzalez

Posted on 09/13/2020 12:32:52 PM PDT by Zhang Fei

John Marvin Weed stood his ground as his assailants encircled him. He had already been pummeled and was bracing himself for more. Weed was with family that day, enjoying Maryland’s Great Frederick Fair when a young man asked him for a dollar. When Weed refused, the young man and his brother attacked.

In a video of the incident, Weed appears calm, hands low at his sides, as the brothers taunt him. Mild-mannered and middle-aged, Weed was a builder; he helped with his hands. ‘He gave so much love to his young niece and nephew, four-wheeler rides, playing in the pool, reading bedtime stories, and so much more,’ said Weed’s sister, Lori Hawkins.

A year after Weed moved with his sister to Frederick County to care for their aging parents, a punch to the back of the head knocked him to the ground near the midway area of the fair. The brothers laughed at Weed, and one stooped to spit in his face. He died of his wounds the next day.

Weed was beaten to death over $1.

The Frederick County Circuit Court placed on probation the younger of the two brothers and ordered him to complete an anger management program. The older brother pleaded guilty to second-degree assault for spitting on Weed after he had fallen, but a second assault charge was dropped. Because they are both under 18, prosecutors argued they should be tried as adults. Two motions to move each case to adult court were denied.

Just days after the gavel came down as a slap on the wrist in Frederick County, a gunshot shattered another family’s life in Wilson, North Carolina.

As five-year-old Cannon Hinnant rode his bicycle, Darius Sessoms approached him, produced a gun, and shot him in the head, according to eyewitnesses.

(Excerpt) Read more at spectator.us ...


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1 posted on 09/13/2020 12:32:52 PM PDT by Zhang Fei
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To: Zhang Fei

“Thank God We Got Penitentiaries” - Richard Pryor


2 posted on 09/13/2020 12:33:49 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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Murderers need to be put to death, not ‘incarcereted.’


3 posted on 09/13/2020 12:38:45 PM PDT by Twotone (While one may vote oneself into socialism one has to shoot oneself out of it.)
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To: Zhang Fei

Yes, we need more prisons, not less. We need a WPA type program to build more prisons.


4 posted on 09/13/2020 12:39:16 PM PDT by Sans-Culotte (Does the left like anything about America?)
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To: Zhang Fei

There is systemic criminality and lack of interest in living in a Civil Society that needs fundamental transformation.


5 posted on 09/13/2020 12:42:15 PM PDT by Paladin2
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There is systemic criminality and lack of interest in living in a Civil Society that needs fundamental transformation.

Yes, and this is not sustainable.

Eventually, vigilante justice will take over and negate the need for more prisons (as well as providing endless entertainment on my Twitter feed).

I'm not kidding either. There's numerous videos on platforms such as LiveLeaks of what mobs in third world countries do to common street thieves and murderers.

These folks spent their last moments alive looking praying for cops to arrest them.

6 posted on 09/13/2020 12:52:29 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: Zhang Fei
I would like to ask social justice warriors and BLM partisans just how John Weed and Cannon Hinnant as well as Channon Christian and Christopher Newsom were protected by their "white privilege."
7 posted on 09/13/2020 1:00:30 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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I don't suppose it's occurred to the feral savages that their barbarism is likely to be the prime cause of racial attitudes regressing to an early 19th century level.

Though with scores of innocent/exemplary exceptions, there's a metastasizing pathology rampant among much of American black 'culture'.

Trillions of dollars and decade after decade of wishful appeasement proves that whitey can't fix it .. only said 'culture' can cure itself.

8 posted on 09/13/2020 1:26:04 PM PDT by tomkat
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Under Incarceration?? BULLSH$T, If we didn’t have all these stupid laws Thwarting the Evolutionary process, these cockroaches would have DIED in the process of performing their chosen profession.


9 posted on 09/13/2020 1:40:02 PM PDT by eyeamok
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Agreed. The prevailing winds seem to be that we are incarcerating too many for too long.

I would like proportionate sentencing. Also I prefer death penalty or restitution, which in some cases would take many years of labor, as
opposed to just sitting there. If you don’t want to work off your debt then I suppose you can just sit there.

But I am glad Biden supported the 1994 crime bill and I think drug use and especially dealing is a Vice crime which begets lots more crime and is not victimless. I think three strikes you’re out is magnanimous - in order to be caught and convicted of three felonies you are a habitual criminal and deserve to stay in prison. You have probably committed hundreds or more felonies if you’ve been caught and convicted for three.

So I am leery of too much of the prison reform and Kamala being maligned for being a tough prosecutor. That’s not her problem!!

And I think that blacks are more in prison because they commit more crime. We have black police, DAs, defense attorneys, judges, and juries now. It’s not racism.


10 posted on 09/13/2020 2:11:58 PM PDT by Persevero (I am afraid propriety has been set at naught. - Jane Austen)
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To: tomkat

There are innocent people incarcerated, of ALL races. No system is perfection. I support the Innocence Project and appeals in the case of substantial new evidence. That said I don’t think we over incarcerate.


11 posted on 09/13/2020 2:13:14 PM PDT by Persevero (I am afraid propriety has been set at naught. - Jane Austen)
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In the same month that george floyd died of a drug overdose, heart disease and excited delerium a number of elderly White people were murdered by black killers.

On May 8 Paul and Lidia Marino were executed while visiting their son's grav by a black thug.

On May 16 80 year old Rosalie Cook was stabbed to death by a black thug who was out on bond despite 69 previous arrests.

On May 25 59 year old Leslie Baker was shot and killed in her driveway.

3 black teens have been arrested.

No demonstrations, no calls for justice, no reporting aside from local news.

Despite the lies of Burn Loot & Murder it is the White population that is being hunted and murdered by black criminal predators.

A White person is murdered every 8.6 hours in the US by a black assailant.

12 posted on 09/13/2020 3:09:15 PM PDT by Eagles6
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To: Twotone; All
Yup. Wanna stop this crap? Mandatory (public) executions for murder carried out within 24 hours of sentencing.

Doing nothing only emboldens future illegal activities.

13 posted on 09/13/2020 3:57:26 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isnÂ’t common anymore.)
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We need work farms and boot camps administered and staffed by prior combat servicemen. They tend to deal with training-related stress better and are not, on average, as vindictive as employees who were lifelong civilians (including police) or non-combat prior service members (no disrespect intended).

Well run work farms and boot camps would be the only way that I know of to clean the drugs and drug culture out of the inmates.

I received information from former drill sergeants and former combat soldiers who worked at a boot camp for violent juvenile offenders. Lifelong civilians eventually corrupted the institution. Not saying that they were evil, but they didn’t have backgrounds that were good for that kind of work. The frustrations got to them too easily, and they didn’t like to run and PT at sunrise with the inmates.

Corrections officers from prisons would be a definite no-go for that kind of institution, by the way. Don’t even think about that. We don’t need more criminal colleges like the prisons.

And remember Abu Ghraib and the backgrounds of those who worked there. That was a definite no-go. Prisons should not be playgrounds for sodomites and sexually confused women.


14 posted on 09/13/2020 5:06:07 PM PDT by familyop ( "Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy".)
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Ah...”Maryland.” More respect is needed in judicial circles and society in general for our Second Amendment and self-defense rights.


15 posted on 09/13/2020 5:31:26 PM PDT by familyop ( "Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy".)
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To: Eagles6

A White person is murdered every 8.6 hours in the US by a black assailant.


Would you please provide a link to the source of this stat? Thanks.


16 posted on 09/13/2020 6:14:37 PM PDT by pluvmantelo (All modern progressive and revolutionary movements are at bottom attacks on private property-Shaw)
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https://www.ojjdp.gov/ojstatbb/ezashr/asp/vic_display.asp


17 posted on 09/13/2020 7:16:23 PM PDT by Eagles6
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To: pluvmantelo
Latest year for stats is 2018.

I have a feeling that things have gotten a lot worse with the blatant, inyour face anti White racism pushed by the left and their msm mouth pieces.

18 posted on 09/13/2020 7:18:57 PM PDT by Eagles6
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To: Eagles6

Thanks muchly.


19 posted on 09/13/2020 7:41:45 PM PDT by pluvmantelo (All modern progressive and revolutionary movements are at bottom attacks on private property-Shaw)
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To: familyop

Very well said!


20 posted on 09/13/2020 9:19:10 PM PDT by octex
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