Posted on 08/27/2020 11:22:16 AM PDT by RomanSoldier19
Oh yeah...
jmacusa,
Ya got it all right there pal.
Way tired of seeing our youth killed while involved in other folks nonsense.
Let them figure it out without American blood.
Sooo
Is it time for the Chi-Coms to invade Taiwan so as to deflect from the growing economic and flooding pain?
Nooo,
Do not look here, look at those nasty Free Chinese.
Huhh? Didn’t they kick us out of Subic?
Our war is here, not in the South China Sea. One of the reasons we are at war here is these bankrupting wars overseas.
I wouldn’t be surprised if Chinese communist agents were instigating riots in the US
Second that. Let them work it out.
President LockDown got gobsmacked with a heavy dose of REALITY
He’ll get that “this number is no longer in service..” message.
It’s not in America’s interest to see a fascist Chinese dictators securing the Enitire South China sea upon which most international trade depends.
Put us down, cut us down, kick us out of and off of bases we built.... And when the bad Chinaman attacks, call us?
Really?
I’m with you guys, for sure...esp since I have a vested interest (niece) in the Navy somewhere around there. The thing is, though, of course we will help. It’s what we do...whether it is deserved or not.
Amen. I don’t want any more of our young people being physically scared and psychologically broken fighting other peoples wars.
God bless your niece but really, it’s time we stopped fighting other people battles. A naval war with China? No way.
Jabbering Third World mutts. I work in a hospital full of them. G damnit when are we going to say enough to being the worlds policeman and Motel 6 at the same time?
I caught some of Trump's acceptance speech tonight and he said no more pointless wars. AMEN Mr. President!
The current situation was not only predictable, it was predicted at the time - tension over the Spratly Islands in particular has been an issue between China, Vietnam, and the Philippines for decades. Open sea lanes has been a U.S. strategic priority for even longer, and our current much-diminished presence is in support of that, but such facilities were a lot cheaper to maintain than they will be to re-establish and I don't sense any political will in D.C. to attempt to recreate the old status quo in a changed, multi-polar world. U.S. imperialism may not seem such a bad thing when faced with the alternative, but I don't think it's coming back.
I will say this, that Vietnam knows how to kick ChiCom ass.
We don’t need a shooting war and the majority of Americans are against. Keep putting tariffs on China and make them howl. A war would bankrupt them.
If it’s a shooting war you want send a couple of MOABs into the Three Gorges Dam. Mother Nature and The Yangtze River will do the rest.
I was over there at that time. As I understand it, the bases agreement expired in 1992 and we did not agree to the demands of the Philippine Senate to renew the lease. We were paying $400 million to lease the bases and they were demanding $1 billion to renew. A U S Senator (Lugar ?) went over there to Discuss renewing the lease and the Philippine Senators, thinking that they had us over a barrel and could take advantage, were very disrespectful to our Senator. Typical of Filipinos! I believe that and the $1B demand is when the decision was made to give the bases back at the end of the lease.
This was well before Mount Pinatubo erupted and Pinatubo had nothing to do with the decision. I had received confidential conversations about returning “stuff” back to the States before Pinatubo happened.
This playing this China card is nothing new. Back in the early 1970’s I was in and out of the P.I. frequently and even then the P.I. Gov was threatening to kick us out and lease Subic and Cubi to the Chinese.
I first went to Subic in 1956. The U.S. Navy owned or controlled everything around Olongapo and Barrio Barretto all the way out to White Rock Beach. Olongapo had dirt streets and there was nothing between the bridge and the Victory Liner terminal except jungle
Through the years the Filipinos whined about their “sovereignty” and little by little all of the bases were transferred to the P.I. Gov.. At the main gate they put up a large sign that said “This is a Philippine Navy Base”, and under that, in small letters “A U.S. Navy Facility”.
The deal about their request for the U.S. to defend them works like this: We go there to defend them, we spend lots of money for bases, etc. They demand that we pay them $$$ in order to defend them! Then they tell us to leave, again, when they no longer feel in danger.
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