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In Kenosha, The Seeds of Civil War: Antifa rioters reap a bitter harvest in a once-placid Wisconsin town.
American Spectator ^ | August 27, 2020 | Scott McKay

Posted on 08/27/2020 7:55:03 AM PDT by karpov

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By Tuesday night, armed groups of volunteers, who could be defined as militia or perhaps vigilantes, had congregated in Kenosha with a mission to protect those businesses surviving the first two nights of violence. One of them appeared to be a libertarian group whose message to the Antifa and Black Lives Matter “mostly peaceful” rioters was that if they wanted to torch government buildings or fight the police, they were indifferent; looting and burning private property, however, was not acceptable.

Included in that group was a 17-year-old from Antioch, Illinois, just on the other side of the border named Kyle Rittenhouse, who reports say is the son of a local policeman. Earlier Tuesday Rittenhouse had joined volunteers in washing graffiti off the outer walls of the main building at a high school in Kenosha. How he ended up holding a long gun with much older adults in that militia group Tuesday night is unclear.

It’s also unclear how Rittenhouse got separated from the group. What is known is as the group massed to defend a gas station from a gaggle of Antifa/BLM types who grew increasingly hostile, elements of the Antifa side made their way to a nearby car lot where they attempted to set vehicles aflame and took baseball bats to windshields in an attempt at wholesale destruction of private property.

Not long after that, as visible from video collected at the scene, Rittenhouse was being chased by an individual, described as a 36-year-old from Kenosha, who threw something at him. Reports had it the object was a Molotov cocktail; if that’s true, it either wasn’t lit or didn’t ignite. Rittenhouse turned and shot the individual, who collapsed to the ground with a bullet to the head and expired shortly thereafter.

(Excerpt) Read more at spectator.org ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: antifa; banglist; kenosha; riot; rittenhouse; wisconsin
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To: DownInFlames

He called the police himself to report the shooting.


41 posted on 08/27/2020 9:35:30 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
"What do these mayors, city council members, DAs and Police Chiefs think is going to happen if THEY don't enforce order and discipline in society?"

What do we need them for if they can't, or won't, don't their jobs?

42 posted on 08/27/2020 9:41:17 AM PDT by Flag_This (China delenda est.)
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To: apillar
I'm honestly surprised it didn't happen long before now, I thought ANTIFA/BLM would make the mistake of going into the wrong town and starting their crap with few making it out alive. I actually think that is what some in the movement wanted, a large scale "massacre" by those EVIL gun toting rural white Trump voters to make themselves look like the victims.

I think that is the goal. I don't know anything about city of Kenosha other than Trump got trounced by 20 percentage points to Hillary in 2016. Trump actually won the county by a few hundred votes. I suspect the margin will be bigger this time.

43 posted on 08/27/2020 9:42:55 AM PDT by EVO X
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To: gundog

The guy shot in the head did not have a gapping whole in his skull like what I’d imagine a 223 or 5.56 would leave. See the arm of they guy he shot for reference. The head shot may have been from a small caliber pistol.


44 posted on 08/27/2020 9:46:09 AM PDT by Edison (I don't know what irks me more, the lying or the incompetence.)
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To: karpov

45 posted on 08/27/2020 9:53:07 AM PDT by GraceG ("If I post an AWESOME MEME, STEAL IT! JUST RE-POST IT IN TWO PLACES PLEASE")
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To: Edison

Maybe. The cranium can. Obtain some of the hydrostatic damage , I imagine. Haven’t heard any specifics on entrance/ exit wounds. 5.56 (assuming that’s the round) is somewhat frangible.


46 posted on 08/27/2020 9:56:43 AM PDT by gundog ( Hail to the Chief, bitches!)
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To: yoe; All

“that’s a start in exposing these criminals....”

You’re welcome, yoe...and correct. Once more people focus, (like Sheridan said, “the pickings for them will be slim”)

Most individuals have lives that are too busy with too many distractions. That was my whole life until my decision to quit working 2-1/2 years ago. I totally understand that. How much time does one have? Only the lord knows. Do not surrender all of your time of YOUR life to someone or something else.

Awareness to November ALERT!


47 posted on 08/27/2020 10:08:44 AM PDT by PGalt (Past Peak Civilization?)
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To: karpov
"...a libertarian group whose message to the Antifa and Black Lives Matter...was that if they wanted to torch government buildings or fight the police, they were indifferent; looting and burning private property, however, was not acceptable."

The message stated in the video was something like we support you if youre attacking government and we support BLM, just dont attack here. Quite a bit different.

"...the object was a Molotov cocktail; if that’s true, it either wasn’t lit or didn’t ignite."

Its clearly lit in the video. The flames arent very long but the lit edge is 9-12" wide. The accelerant container failing to break does not make it any less an attack with a deadly weapon. Id bet that actually watching the videos being reported on would lead to better information being reported.

48 posted on 08/27/2020 10:18:49 AM PDT by gnarledmaw (Hive minded liberals worship leaders, sovereign conservatives elect servants.)
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To: kvanbrunt2; Roman_War_Criminal; gundog; cuban leaf

Not only does the entry wound look a little bit too large in diameter, the whole back of his head is there. Its clear by the way that they cradle his head and the relative lack of blood that the back of his head is still there.

Ive seen statements by some apparently liberal types saying something about “a keyhole.” Assuming they are both reporting accurately and using the term accurately, admittedly huge assumptions, then they must be talking about the exit, as the entrance appears rather circular (cross section circular into a curvature which I suppose would appear elongated to a person that didnt understand the trajectory). IF all of that is true then there is a defined keyhole in the back and that wouldnt happen from a .223 to the noggin at close range and would suggest another round from another weapon.

No?


49 posted on 08/27/2020 10:33:54 AM PDT by gnarledmaw (Hive minded liberals worship leaders, sovereign conservatives elect servants.)
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To: karpov

The mostly peaceful riots, arson, and looting got a mostly peaceful response from a kid with a cool head and an AR-15.


50 posted on 08/27/2020 10:36:04 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: gnarledmaw

I saw the wound, there would have definitely been an exit wound with an AR15 or any other rifle round.

His head would have looked like a split watermelon actually on the back side.

I’m guessing 9mm pistol.

Here’s an ID of the dude that took it in the chest and was DRT.

https://www.fox6now.com/news/friends-identify-man-killed-in-kenosha-1-of-3-shot-by-illinois-teen-police-say


51 posted on 08/27/2020 10:39:48 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Like Enoch, Noah, & Lot, the True Church will soon be removed & then destruction comes forth.)
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To: gnarledmaw
And here's the SOB that took it to the head. https://scallywagandvagabond.com/2020/08/joseph-don-rosenbaum-kenosha-wi-shooting-victim-id-as-registered-sex-offender-who-chased-teen-shooter/
52 posted on 08/27/2020 10:42:26 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Like Enoch, Noah, & Lot, the True Church will soon be removed & then destruction comes forth.)
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To: karpov

Why was this 17-year old’s name released??
He is a juvenile!!


53 posted on 08/27/2020 10:43:41 AM PDT by Cuttnhorse (Nothing dies harder than a lie that people want to believe)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal
Rosenbaum is a convicted pedophile too! Is he one of the ones the libs are letting out of jails due to "covid" to riot?
54 posted on 08/27/2020 10:44:16 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Like Enoch, Noah, & Lot, the True Church will soon be removed & then destruction comes forth.)
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To: gnarledmaw

A lot of assumptions. I’ve heard of 5.56 doing crazy things. I think I count seven shots in that initial encounter. No idea what actually happened.


55 posted on 08/27/2020 10:44:31 AM PDT by gundog ( Hail to the Chief, bitches!)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

I hate html...

https://scallywagandvagabond.com/2020/08/joseph-don-rosenbaum-kenosha-wi-shooting-victim-id-as-registered-sex-offender-who-chased-teen-shooter/


56 posted on 08/27/2020 10:45:02 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Like Enoch, Noah, & Lot, the True Church will soon be removed & then destruction comes forth.)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal
Rosenbaum is a convicted pedophile too!

Just dessert, did he get shot in the groin?

57 posted on 08/27/2020 10:48:34 AM PDT by 1Old Pro (#openupstateny)
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To: yoe

I just got off the phone with a friend living in the Gardnerville-Minden, Nevada area and the word is out that a couple of busses full of BLM morons from Calif are going to “protest” this weekend. They tried it a couple of weeks ago but it went nowhere due to the huge turnout of armed local citizens.

The word my friend is hearing is that the BLM useful idiots have cancelled the “protests” this weekend because, “Gardnerville-Minden is too dangerous”.

This is the only thing the idiots understand...they are not brave, they are cowards. This is why all this chaos is occuring in democrat-run communities.


58 posted on 08/27/2020 10:53:25 AM PDT by Cuttnhorse (Nothing dies harder than a lie that people want to believe)
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To: Cuttnhorse

They (apparently) only canceled the G-M march. They say they will still be at the Capitol in Carson City.


59 posted on 08/27/2020 10:54:42 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (These aren't my pants!)
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To: mad_as_he$$

My friend told me that the defenders are going to have a big potluck dinner tonight...wish I could be there.


60 posted on 08/27/2020 11:03:07 AM PDT by Cuttnhorse (Nothing dies harder than a lie that people want to believe)
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