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Why The United States Needs To Put Its Weight Behind France In The Mediterranean; It is a gift from heaven that one of America’s oldest allies, is now volunteering to shoulder additional security burdens.
The Federalist ^ | 08/17/2020 | Sumantra Maitra

Posted on 08/17/2020 7:24:52 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 08/17/2020 7:24:52 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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French version of “Build the Wall”?


2 posted on 08/17/2020 7:28:03 AM PDT by Ouchthatonehurt
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I'm for European disengagement - on a very large scale.

It's a one-way relationship that does nothing for us. NATO is a dead-letter, a moot albatross.

3 posted on 08/17/2020 7:29:30 AM PDT by AAABEST (NY/DC/LA media/political/military industrial complex DELENDA EST)
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To: Ouchthatonehurt

Just like ancient days France good guys Germans bad guys


4 posted on 08/17/2020 7:34:11 AM PDT by BigEdLB (BigedLB, Russian BOT, At your service)
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To: SeekAndFind

Yeah right. Just how we helped France with Viet Nam.


5 posted on 08/17/2020 7:35:09 AM PDT by gdzla (Tyrannis Seditio, Obsequium Deo)
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To: Ouchthatonehurt

It’s not 40 years ago. We don’t need turkey’s help if something goes down in the seas there.

The leader is turning churches into mosques, bought ISIS’ oil AND gave them free passage...should have been out of NATO right there...and now supports terrorist groups openly.

Screw em.

And germany is a bully and has been for as long as I can recall.


6 posted on 08/17/2020 7:36:55 AM PDT by dp0622 (I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO ABOUT THE COVID GODFATHER I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO. YOU CAN ACT LIKE A MAN!)
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And France is shoving Muslim migrants at Britain by the boatload and via the Chunnel.

Meanwhile, Britain is going full fascist against anyone caught criticizing Muslims or Islam.

Screw ‘em all!


7 posted on 08/17/2020 8:26:53 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("Pres. Trump doesn't wear glasses. That's because he's got 2020.")
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To: SeekAndFind

Staying out of it has encouraged the natural alliances to come forward. Our presence in the situation sucks all the air out of the room, so to speak, and completely changes the dynamic. Sometimes thats necessary and good, but its better to let things work out organically, if that is at all possible. We should only get involved to prevent things from spiraling completely out of control, or if we have a direct interest.

With no support from EU, Greece has had to form new alliances, with France and Italy stepping forward outside of the EU structure, and with Egypt and Israel. In Libya, Egypt has allied with Russia to keep the Turks at bay. In Syria, Russia has aligned with Assad and Iran, and Israel is working to separate Russia from Iran.

In the Middle East, fear of Iran has brought a complete transformation as Saudi Arabia, Oman, and UAE seek Israeli support and abandon the Palestinians in order to get it. Who saw that coming? Though, its been coming for a very long time, just under the surface.

We have a role to play, but letting the local actors take their responsibilities is a good thing.


8 posted on 08/17/2020 8:31:22 AM PDT by marron
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The point about Germany’s diminishing influence is a good one. Their refusal to get involved in helping Greece has had the effect of making Germany irrelevant.

And shifting US soldiers to Poland does the same.

Trump is sidelining Merkel, and events are helping him.


9 posted on 08/17/2020 8:33:18 AM PDT by marron
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Let the French manage their own affairs.


10 posted on 08/17/2020 8:43:23 AM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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I remember when the US and Brits did all the work, but
deGaulle took the credit.


11 posted on 08/17/2020 9:59:36 AM PDT by ryderann
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All I know is everytime we back France, from WWI, WWII and Vietnam, we loose a sh!t load of great men for their military genius and balless fighting abilities! "I would rather have a German division in front of me than a French one behind me." ― General George S. Patton
12 posted on 08/17/2020 10:35:44 AM PDT by Bommer (I'm a MAGA-Deplorian! It is the way! It is the only way!)
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My recollection is that the French troops that were doing so much fighting in Africa a few years ago had to be transported, along with all their gear and supplies, by US aircraft. The French had troops, alright, but no airlift capacity to get them anywhere or keep them supplied.

If that is what they are going to do this time, I say let them do it on their own. They are not our allies and certainly not our friends as far as I can see.


13 posted on 08/17/2020 11:19:23 AM PDT by Cincinnatus.45-70 (What do DemocRats enjoy more than a truckload of dead babies? Unloading them wthaith a pitchfork!)
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is not France the oldest American Ally?


14 posted on 08/17/2020 11:46:40 AM PDT by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world)
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Going down that road, aid to the American colonies actually bankrupt the French King and ultimately resulted in the French Revolution.

America was a sideshow in the French war with the British but cost a lot of borrowed money


15 posted on 08/17/2020 11:50:39 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12) Progressives are existential American enemies.....all of them)
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"Meanwhile, Britain London is going full fascist against anyone caught criticizing Muslims or Islam.

Don't confuse the authoritarian tone coming out of the UK Capital with the rest of the population. Brexit happened for a reason, in spite of the best effort of London political operators.
16 posted on 08/17/2020 1:43:45 PM PDT by indthkr
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Compared to the U.S., Britain is a small country. The reach of UK police is everywhere and an indiscreet tweet or Facebook post will have the Bobbies at one’s door. The head of the arresting detail will probably be Muslim.

By the way, Britain and the U.S. now have about the same number of Muslims inside their borders, around 3,400,000 each. Look at the difference in country size.

As for Brexiteers, they’re not the ones in the driver’s seat.


17 posted on 08/17/2020 2:31:18 PM PDT by elcid1970 ("Pres. Trump doesn't wear glasses. That's because he's got 2020.")
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To: SeekAndFind

France is really Germany at this point.


18 posted on 08/17/2020 2:32:22 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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"As for Brexiteers, they’re not the ones in the driver’s seat.

Perhaps.

On the other hand, I've had more than one UK resident tell me that Britain is politically held together by duct tape and bailing wire.
19 posted on 08/17/2020 2:49:01 PM PDT by indthkr
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Yeah like Vietnam


20 posted on 08/17/2020 4:16:31 PM PDT by ronnie raygun
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