Posted on 08/15/2020 4:50:16 PM PDT by karpov
After Southern Californias soaring coronavirus caseload forced Chapman University this month to abruptly abandon plans to reopen its campus and shift to an autumn of all-remote instruction, the school promised that students would still get a robust Chapman experience.
What about a robust refund? retorted Christopher Moore, a spring graduate, on Facebook.
A parent chimed in. We are paying a lot of money for tuition, and our students are not getting what we paid for, wrote Shannon Carducci, whose youngest child, Ally, is a sophomore at Chapman, in Orange County, where the cost of attendance averages $65,000 a year. Back when they believed Ally would be attending classes in person, her parents leased her a $1,200-a-month apartment. Now, Ms. Carducci said, she plans to ask for a tuition discount.
A rebellion against the high cost of a bachelors degree, already brewing around the nation before the coronavirus, has gathered fresh momentum as campuses have strained to operate in the pandemic. Incensed at paying face-to-face prices for education that is increasingly online, students and their parents are demanding tuition rebates, increased financial aid, reduced fees and leaves of absences to compensate for what they feel will be a diminished college experience.
At Rutgers University, more than 30,000 people have signed a petition started in July calling for an elimination of fees and a 20 percent tuition cut. More than 40,000 have signed a plea for the University of North Carolina system to refund housing charges to students in the event of another Covid-19-related campus shutdown. The California State University systems early decision to go online-only this fall has incited calls for price cuts at campuses from Fullerton to San Jose.
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Likewise, public schools, controlled by teachers unions, are demanding more funding while teaching only remotely a few hours a day.
I wonder how tenure works in bankruptcy?
I wouldn't even say its glorified.
Does a “studies” prof become even more worthless via Skype or does he/she/it/whatever assume a false image of a real human being when viewed on the screen?
Such questions have baffled philosophers for millenia.
(What, you didn’t know the Greeks had an early version of Skype?)
Some classes work well online, others don’t. One of my kids graduated a couple years ago as an aerospace engineer. Almost all of his last year was online. The school was about 90 minutes away so he could have lived at home except he had a college job in his field. It paid enough to cover both his tuition and room and board so he stayed on campus.
I can’t wait till the college bubble bursts.
Another son of mine spent about $1200 to get his commercial driver license. He just turned 21 and is a professional truck driver. His company just invested in a brand new semi tractor and trailer for him. He earns great money. His best friend is a heavy equipment operator. Again, really good income and solid work.
Lowering cost would require lowering wages / layoffs of the real privileged in America = Teachers and Professors. That will be the very last Domino to fall.
Come on $65,0000 is nothing when you have a future at Starbucks making Caramel Macchiatos.
I’m loving watching this system implode. Pretty soon professors are going to be clamoring to get back in the classroom when faced with pay cuts and layoffs. F them all. Send your kid to a trade school so they can come out with an actual skill.
Perhaps it follows the Soviet model. "You pretend to teach, and they pretend to pay you."
No ones forcing anyone to go to this college. Or any other college.
I heard the Democrats were going to open a totally free college for Antifa and the Marxist-Black Lives Matter. Homeless will be admitted along with felons, child predators and retired Democrat politicians.
It will be called “Woke Forest University”.
Plumbers make great money.
They'll have to start calling them college GED's.
Well at least these democrat college pukes have their “safe spaces” in their parent’s basement.
Peak Brick and Mortar Higher Edumacation.
Couldn’t happen to a nicer bunch...
Who needs all those high priced professors just write a script and get Max Headroom to read it
Indeed, tuitions should be cut in half or so.
If youre in person, presumably you are using the infrastructure there which needs various kinds of maintenance. I seriously doubt 100% of tuition is about professorial costs.
I didnt even live on campus, and I drove in, using pavement, walked or biked around, went to get meals and vending machines, used the libraries, used bathrooms, threw things out, etc.
All that has to involve cost. I never paid for anything outside first application fee, tuition, and food.
They need a refund.
The Rent/Lease people will be out of business
About half the students in colleges these days are majoring in subjects that are vapid and fundamentally useless.These students generalyy do not have the intellect to study STEM subjects and even the traditional humanities have been watered down to politically correct jibberish. They do not develop socially or intellectually. Most would be better off if they dropped out entirely and were forced to embrace the real world.
“....he/she/it/whatever assume a false image”
Image. Revelation, New Testament.
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