Posted on 08/15/2020 4:50:16 PM PDT by karpov
After Southern California’s soaring coronavirus caseload forced Chapman University this month to abruptly abandon plans to reopen its campus and shift to an autumn of all-remote instruction, the school promised that students would still get a “robust Chapman experience.”
“What about a robust refund?” retorted Christopher Moore, a spring graduate, on Facebook.
A parent chimed in. “We are paying a lot of money for tuition, and our students are not getting what we paid for,” wrote Shannon Carducci, whose youngest child, Ally, is a sophomore at Chapman, in Orange County, where the cost of attendance averages $65,000 a year. Back when they believed Ally would be attending classes in person, her parents leased her a $1,200-a-month apartment. Now, Ms. Carducci said, she plans to ask for a tuition discount.
A rebellion against the high cost of a bachelor’s degree, already brewing around the nation before the coronavirus, has gathered fresh momentum as campuses have strained to operate in the pandemic. Incensed at paying face-to-face prices for education that is increasingly online, students and their parents are demanding tuition rebates, increased financial aid, reduced fees and leaves of absences to compensate for what they feel will be a diminished college experience.
At Rutgers University, more than 30,000 people have signed a petition started in July calling for an elimination of fees and a 20 percent tuition cut. More than 40,000 have signed a plea for the University of North Carolina system to refund housing charges to students in the event of another Covid-19-related campus shutdown. The California State University system’s early decision to go online-only this fall has incited calls for price cuts at campuses from Fullerton to San Jose.
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get rid of woke, SJW and marxist administrators. Purge the humanities.
That is the route to survival
Good one, though I like "Woke Correctional Center" better. :-)
The government should stop guaranteeing the loans. Prices should drop that way.
I didn’t know Greeks had Persian Studies programs.
Probably another shaming program about how bad Greek states are and the poor Persians.
You spend all that tuition money and you still got the kids at home? What’s wrong with this picture? When you are 18 it’s time to grow the F up. At least that’s what my dad told me. Not so much with my sister but guess who turned out to be the most productive. I had 3 choices, go to work, join the army (1967 at that) or buckle down in college and get a degree. Option 3 was my choice but there wasn’t fraternity, and parties or a car. OTOH I missed my SE Asia trip.
No school is worth $65,000/year, and the fact that subjects can be taught online should only drive this point home to apparently dimwitted parents.
A very small portion of student's tuition goes to professors, who aren't in class that much anyway. They spend their time writing grant proposals and doing research to bring more money for the university. Who cares about teaching the students? That is left to the TAs.
It is the administration, their liberal programs agenda, along with huge support staff, that consume the bulk of unnecessary funding at colleges and universities. (Gotta pay hundred-thousand dollar salaries to the VP of Diversity Enforcement and her minions to brainwash and threaten the students and faculty.) Tuition goes to keeping the liberal bastions bashing and trashing all that is good about Western culture and society. Professors who toe the party line may be the last to go, but they will inevitably be sacrificed on the altar of social justice, just like the rest of so-called higher education.
College students and their parents are literally "paying" with their lives (countless years of student-debt) for this useless and crazy indoctrination.
It doesn't. Just ask the unions with their pensions when the company or municipality goes bankrupt.
It will growing pains, but there is no reason why it can’t be a productive method, if industry insists on testable standards.
Likewise, public schools, controlled by teachers unions, are demanding more funding while teaching only remotely a few hours a day.
One neighboring district is buying/renting ‘hotspots’ within the district to provide an opportunity for on-line learning administered by teachers. My district is thinking that one teacher will teach in person while the other teacher will do on-line (we have two teachers/grade). There is the option of sending home packets and having the buses pick them up/deliver next week’s every week. They did this in the spring, but didn’t give grades, this year it might be for grades.
If kids start getting the Wuhan/CCP virus I have no doubt the school will shut down like it did in March. What happens then, is anyone’s guess. I know of at least four teachers who have had or are having cancer treatments and another who had a heart transplant.
Don’t know if the district will survive.
“Send your kid to a trade school so they can come out with an actual skill.”
We need focused education for all potential careers - not just trade schools. If you want to be a scientist, there should be focused educational opportunities that prepare you for this. If you want to be a journalist, there should be focused educational opportunities for this - with absolutely zero ability for liberal scum to indoctrinate. It is way, way past time to stop allowing the morons who populate academics to have any more input into society than do day laborers.
Ever Woke University.
In the meantime, others will take advantage of the bs in colleges and will offer real world alternatives.
Google announces 100,000 scholarships for online certificates in data analytics, project management and UX
ocs.google.com/document/d/1YLkkmdJZL9ed33Cqchl6qQwHCPF-6gKqqqxx_l0MXw4/edit
At no cost for the students.
Walmart is offering a zero cost online business degree to its employees.
We have two Phd friends, who are expert and experienced in setting up excellent online classes up to the Master’s degree in business. One is predicting the end of brick walls for K1 to master’s degrees in a few years.
Even an 80+ year old guy with a MBA and real world experience in business might be lured to run a couple of classes a week in his BVD/s and his home office.
A 50+ something female friend is running dance classes via the internet. She is a Wharton Grad and is looking at basic courses for part time internet businesses as a consultant/advisor.
“...You spend all that tuition money and you still got the kids at home? What’s wrong with this picture? When you are 18 it’s time to grow the F up. At least that’s what my dad told me. Not so much with my sister but guess who turned out to be the most productive. I had 3 choices, go to work, join the army (1967 at that) or buckle down in college and get a degree. Option 3 was my choice but there wasn’t fraternity, and parties or a car. OTOH I missed my SE Asia trip....”
We’re cut from the same cloth and the same era.
My child’s tuition at Arkansas was 8K. She turned out great.
“The government should stop guaranteeing the loans. Prices should drop that way.”
I agree. I will add, allow the loans to be subject to bankruptcy. Lenders will get really picky about who gets a loan and what majors kids pursue. I suspect the amount of junk degrees would drop off rapidly. Lots of former professors working at Starbucks or on the streets.
Yes while I support a refund for anyone who has invested the best thing to do is just not enroll.
Very difficult for young people who have been groomed for college college college all their lives, the good kids who studied hard and got all their ducks in a row to go to a name school and get a good career. It’s not their fault.
Wait till they lose in November - they will be tearing their hair out and I doubt Kamala will get much praise then.
That was a good bolt!
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