Posted on 08/10/2020 12:05:11 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
Contrary to his predictions, President Trump won't have a coronavirus vaccine ready by Election Day, vaccine experts tell CNN after reviewing data from Moderna, the first company to begin its Phase 3 clinical trials of a coronavirus vaccine in the United States.
"There's no way. There's just no way," said Dr. Peter Hotez, a vaccinologist at Baylor College of Medicine and a CNN medical analyst.
Last week President Trump said he was "optimistic" a vaccine would be ready around Election Day on November 3.
"I believe we'll have the vaccine before the end of the year, certainly, but around that date, yes. I think so," Trump said Thursday.
CNN obtained part of an email Moderna sent on Friday to the principal investigators of its vaccine trials. It says 4,536 study subjects have enrolled in the trials.
The trial started the morning of July 27 and intends to enroll 30,000 study subjects. The company has said it's "on track to complete enrollment in September."
Moderna won't make that 30,000 in September if they continue at the rate of the first two weeks, but it's likely the speed of enrollment will ramp up, since as of Friday only 54 of the study's 89 sites were operating, according to the company's email to its researchers.
Moderna's numbers did increase significantly from the first week of the trial to the second week.
Even if Moderna does reach its goal of full enrollment during the month of September, the company still won't have a vaccine on the market by Election Day, infectious disease experts say.
"I don't see how that would be possible," said Dr. Paul Offit, a vaccinologist at Children's Hospital of Philadelphia.
After Moderna enrolls its subjects and gives them their first shot, they then have to wait 28 days
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If it’s a CNN article, then it must be true. /sarc
Election day is 85 days away. There is no way it will be done by then and there never was any chance there would be. Late this year or early next year would be record time so shoot for that.
Seems to kill the Wuhan and work as a vaccine - perhaps this is very good news
I know someone who works at Lonza.
They were contracted by Moderna to actually produce the vaccine at their facility in Portsmouth, NH.
ALL other projects are second to the production of the Maderna Vaccine both here and at their sister facility in the UK.
However, it takes time to actually manufacture(grow) the vaccine. They need certain materials to actually make it. Some of those materials are in short supply because of supply chain disruptions around the world.
This is similar to the fact that the three stores I went to on Friday were all out of Tilex Mildew bathroom cleaner. All three said that they reorder every other day. That their suppliers were all out of it.
This same type of supply chain issue is part of what I am being told is holding up production of some drugs/vaccines.
Interpretation
ChAdOx1 nCoV-19 showed an acceptable safety profile, and homologous boosting increased antibody responses. These results, together with the induction of both humoral and cellular immune responses, support large-scale evaluation of this candidate vaccine in an ongoing phase 3 programme."
Very good news
I talked to a person yesterday who stated they had already received the first Moderna injection as part of this study.The truth is always evasive !! Who knows..I don’t..
Lefturd companies slow walking this garbage to hamper DJT at the polls?
I can see that being the case...
The liberal Doctor that CBS uses says otherwise, and yes I was surprised that he admitted we could have a vaccine by November 1st.
The common cold is a corona virus. No successful vaccines created after decades of trying. Any successful corona virus vaccine would be a first of it's kind. IMHO, it ain't gonna happen; not this year, not next year, not in my lifetime.
Admirable goal.
Oh how they are hoping, real scientists over there
42 US Code 300aa-22
No vaccine manufacturer shall be liable in a civil action for damages arising from a vaccine related injury or death associated with the administration of a vaccine....
My son receives his first Moderna shot on August 11th. He will get his second shot 28 days later.
My wife and I both got the Pfizer Phase 3 shots recently. We wait 21 days before getting the second shot. I think my wife received the vaccine because she had chills, fatigue and a fever (99.5) shortly afterwards. I had no symptoms, so I think I got the placebo.
Pfizer and Moderna are neck and neck in the race for an approved vaccine. I think it can happen before the election. AstraZeneca is in the lead though. I understand AstraZeneca will be starting a large scale Phase 3 trial in the US, but they have already been doing a large scale study in the UK. If the FDA will approve AstraZeneca based on the UK study without having to complete a US Phase 3 study, then AstraZeneca will likely have the first approved vaccine.
Here is where things get tricky for the clinical studies. When we received the Pfizer first shot, we ask the “supervisor” what happens to everyone who got a placebo if a vaccine by another company gets approved. The supervisor said everyone who got the placebo would be notified so they could quit the study and go get vaccinated. Well, this presents a problem for every study in progress after another company gets approved. How can they complete their study if their placebo patients all quit and go get vaccinated?
For example, if AstraZeneca gets a vaccine approved first and all the Pfizer placebo patients quit the study and get the AstraZeneca vaccine, how can Pfizer complete their study? Interesting dilemmia.
Yep - good to see someone got the gist - Trump enabled faster than ever before development efforts but he isn’t responsible for a vaccine - they just need to blame him for everything they can, even as they try to slow the process down...TDS is a serious illness.
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