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To: Hojczyk

This is not a master stroke. It’s a huge mistake.

What he’s doing is completely illegal and will be knocked down in the courts. In the meantime, people and companies will be jerked around.

Americans do NOT want a King! Not even one who is doing things that we like. This was my biggest concern about Trump. And now, it’s trying to come true.


7 posted on 08/08/2020 2:48:10 PM PDT by SomeCallMeTim ( The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them!it)
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To: SomeCallMeTim

If the dems sue to stop payments to the unemployed it will be a complete and utter disaster for them. Check mate.


13 posted on 08/08/2020 2:49:33 PM PDT by StolarStorm
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To: SomeCallMeTim

Agreed. If he can do this, the next Dem can do it too. We have an executive officer, not a monarch.


16 posted on 08/08/2020 2:50:57 PM PDT by linear (The truth brooks no arbiters.)
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To: SomeCallMeTim

“”What he’s doing is completely illegal and will be knocked down in the courts.”””

And it will be the democrats filing lawsuits. They can explain to the electorate why they couldn’t do these things themselves which is what they were elected to do.


17 posted on 08/08/2020 2:51:27 PM PDT by shelterguy
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To: SomeCallMeTim

Americans want an effective CEO. Emphasis on effective.


21 posted on 08/08/2020 2:52:25 PM PDT by eclectic (Liberalism is a mental disorder)
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To: SomeCallMeTim

Dems bring this into court they are SCREWED!!!


22 posted on 08/08/2020 2:52:52 PM PDT by Trump Girl Kit Cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)
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To: SomeCallMeTim
In the meantime, people and companies will be jerked around.

How so? Are you unemployed? Facing eviction? A small business owner struggling to survive? People and companies are being jerked around right now. Or did you somehow miss that?

This won't eliminate the jerking around, but it will ease it somewhat.

Or do you have a better use for your tax dollars than helping your fellow citizens in need weather this unprecedented storm?

29 posted on 08/08/2020 2:55:21 PM PDT by JennysCool
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To: SomeCallMeTim

Our rights have already been trampled on and buried. Might as well put the demodummies in a vise.


40 posted on 08/08/2020 3:00:47 PM PDT by TStro (Better to die on your feet than live on your knees)
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To: SomeCallMeTim

I don’t like EOs, either, for all the reasons you stated. It’s not clear, however, that all the provisions will be knocked out by an objective judge. The problem is that the dems will file several identical lawsuits in districts with a majority of liberal judges. When they get a judge they like, they’ll dismiss the other cases. The resistance judge will issue a nation wide injunction against implementation.

But that too will be an election issue. There is a political cost to filing this suit.

What this will (should) do is force a compromise with Congress. It is thus not a bad move.


43 posted on 08/08/2020 3:03:32 PM PDT by theoilpainter
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To: SomeCallMeTim

“What he’s doing is completely illegal and will be knocked down in the courts”

I believe someone will sue, but I’m not so sure it will be the Democrats.

I’m not so sure these EO’s are illegal. Trump said he using unspent funds that have already been appropriated for pandemic relief. Not a whole lot different from his transferring funds to build the wall, is it? That battle was won in court. I don’t see how this is much different.


44 posted on 08/08/2020 3:03:49 PM PDT by be-baw
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To: SomeCallMeTim

I will go on a limb here, and say that Trump and his people have researched the applicable laws, and that he has authority to take these actions.

Clearly it would be a lot cleaner legally if Congress had passed legislation, but,a president has executive authority in various ways.

I have not researched all of the ins and outs of executive authority, or existing laws under which he may be issuing these executive orders. I agree it’s not good if there no foundation in the law for him to issue these orders.

I’m assuming (yes I know what it means to assume) that there is a foundation in the law for these executive orders. If not, then that is problematical, I agree.


49 posted on 08/08/2020 3:07:36 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: SomeCallMeTim
Please clutch your pearls in private. You are embarrassing yourself 🙄
53 posted on 08/08/2020 3:10:48 PM PDT by Jrabbit
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To: SomeCallMeTim

So, You think we all must wait for the real leader Nancy Pelousi to offer us scraps while she pays off all the non producers?


60 posted on 08/08/2020 3:14:50 PM PDT by John 3_19-21 (We are not in a civil war. The democrats civil war is ruining the country.)
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“Americans do NOT want a King! Not even one who is doing things that we like. “
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I think that day has passed. Reading comments..... as long as it is “our guy” its ok. I am very uncomfortable with all of this spending. Trillions. Both sides are buying votes.

Danger.


61 posted on 08/08/2020 3:15:33 PM PDT by xenia ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." George Orwell)
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To: SomeCallMeTim

I agree in part. His actions 1 & 2 are almost certainly illegal and unconstitutional. However three and four may be within the prerogative of the executive based on a very broad interpretation of emergency powers. But I am uncomfortable with the whole thing. We just spent eight years complaining about a leftist governing by executive order. It is more than a bit hypocritical to suddenly start cheering the same behavior from our guy.


69 posted on 08/08/2020 3:26:50 PM PDT by NRx (A man of honor passes his father's civilization to his son without surrendering it to strangers.)
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To: SomeCallMeTim

Look at the optics of the situation.

Democrats will have to go to a judge to stop people from getting unemployment.

Democrats will have to go to a judge to stop people from getting eviction relief.

Democrats will have to go to a judge to stop people from getting student loan deferral.

Democrats will have to go to a judge to stop people from getting payroll tax relief.

Those Democrats are just terrible people. Trump is trying to help working people. Dems want to penalize working people. They are bad people.

I love it!


70 posted on 08/08/2020 3:26:50 PM PDT by SpeedyInTexas (Localization, not Globalization)
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To: SomeCallMeTim

If it’s not legal, a court will overturn it. Meantime, it leaves the RATs with a black eye.


76 posted on 08/08/2020 3:33:10 PM PDT by gogeo (It isn't just time to open America up again: It's time to be America again.)
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To: SomeCallMeTim

I agree, big mistake.


81 posted on 08/08/2020 3:35:35 PM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheelbarrow)
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To: SomeCallMeTim

You obviously do not understand the difference between a King and a 4 year President of a Republic! A king has no congress and no courts and no anyone to stop him from doing whatever he wants to do. He imposes edicts for the life of his Monarchy and cannot be overturned unless you kill him! A President has a 4 year term. If you don’t like what he does, vote him out!


96 posted on 08/08/2020 3:43:58 PM PDT by rwoodward ("god, guns and more ammo")
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To: SomeCallMeTim

We are in unprecedented times. You want POTUS to play by the rules while his enemies have used the very same corrupt judicial system to stop or pause many of Trump’s agenda items. You’re concerned about Trump acting like a King? If Biden wins, whoever is pulling his cord will make even King George look like a patriot.


99 posted on 08/08/2020 3:45:28 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Trust the plan of the 17th letter of the English alphabet!)
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To: SomeCallMeTim
What he’s doing is completely illegal and will be knocked down in the courts. In the meantime, people and companies will be jerked around

Actually he's doing it because the courts said in effect that Obama data eo was now the law. So if they strike down his eos they have to strike down Obama s as well

107 posted on 08/08/2020 3:49:00 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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