Posted on 08/06/2020 4:48:02 AM PDT by karpov
This all starts and continues with Trump not being honest and strong on the covid hoax and not having got control of his own admin (and rising tech censorship) three and a half years in. As long as hr continurs on the path for the disastrous forced mRNA vaccine for a hoax, we’re going to remain under a medical/tech tyranny that they know how to rule us, the government, and the economy with.
If I were President I’d give some serious consideration to issuing an executive order naming restaurants and bars as critical industries under the Defense Production Act.
Continue these payments and that’s guaranteed to happen anyway. Just with more inflation.
I’ll take my chances with more debt and 4 years of Trump.
My business was forced to shut down due to no concerts, venues being open. Which we depend on. Not seeing any light at the end of this tunnel yet. As a business owner I qualified for unemployment due to Covid.
I truly, truly hope you’re right. I just have a really bad feeling about all of this.
I don’t have a good feeling about any of the direction we’re heading. We are living in interesting times.
I’m in the boat who’s saying if you’re even considering extending the PUA ‘bonus’ money, also grant it to those who become fully employed. I think you’d see an explosion of people taking jobs when they aren’t dancing around the $223 income limit per week. Earn $224, that’s all you get that week. Earn $223, you get a dollar from the state and $600 from the feds.
Right now that’s a huge hurdle: lower income folks sit around and get given $768 a week PUA benefits for doing nothing, get a job, get $500 a week from working, $268 a week cut in ‘income.’
Make it $300 a week ‘bonus’ if you get a full time job and I bet a whole lot of people would suddenly find full time employment.
Cut off the money and you’ll find lots of jobs materializing.
My wife thankfully has a job that she can still do from home earning over 100K. There is no way I would ever qualify for unemployment. I am not looking for a handout, I want compensation for my business losses. Also, my business isn’t completely shut down, we are currently limited to 50% capacity, and still are making “some” money. If the government hadn’t literally forced our closure for months, and then restricted our actions after allowing re-opening I would of been fine. The government should just do the right thing here and send out another check to all tax payers like they did a few months ago.
Ironically my business is .. I am a venue owner :) lol small world!
As others have said, a simple extension of the unemployment benefits for six months is probably the best solution. The benefits are popular and it does not spend on propping up states and cities. Hard for the Democrats to fight that or call Republicans mean. Six months takes us past the election.
If the worry is that the payments discourage taking work then make the first $600 of earned income per week tax free (but leaving the benefit taxable) for all people. This would provide a benefit to taking work and reward those in ‘essential’ businesses who are working and so not getting the benefit.
Yeah, yeah, I know, the deficit, but if the government is going to throw around so much money it may as well help people (instead of banks and larger corporations).
I prefer NO DEAL to capitulation to the left.
This whole thing is a cl*ster **** of truly epic proportions. Here in rural Indiana things are bad, but no where near as bad as places near the bigger cities.
I haven’t had a decent quote come across my desk now in weeks, normally this time every 4 years it slows down while companies start hesitating because of a possible change in the administration, but this year is beyond anything we have experienced ever.
As a business owner I truly don’t know what I will do if Biden is elected, especially if he has some ultra progressive VP that will take the reins a few days after the election. I am lucky that I owe nothing right now, my building, land, every piece of equipment, vehicles, the works are 100% clear, even my payables are 0 here. If it does go that way I think I will just let everyone go, stay here and just go it alone. I have a skill-set that is always in demand, just run the place to keep it going until I see a chance to let it go and retire.
No matter what, I weep for my kids and especially my grandkids, this whole shift in our national identity will guarantee they never have the chances most of us here have enjoyed our whole lives.
I feel for you. What governors have done is outrageous. Really, outrageous is not an adequate enough to describe what they have done.
I am in the middle of starting a business, with several years of preparation prior to the shut downs. I had 90% of the what I needed to start the business before the economy was shut down. I changed my entire life - downsized everything so I could start a business that in a year or two would gainfully employ people, pay taxes, and of course being the evil capitalist that I am, eek out a profit.
I'm still going forward with it. There is little else I can do at this point. I've had to radically change my business model, but I still think I can make it work. I'm going to be tremendously selfish and take another $1,200 if it comes my way. I've paid hundreds of thousands in taxes over the years so I am going to be a little entitled and accept some of that back. All of that $1,200 will be put into the business, just like the first $1,200.
As for unemployment, I have been working all my life, some 41 years and not once have I held a position where I could receive unemployment. As an owner of previous businesses, I've had to pay for unemployment for the salary that I paid myself. But as an owner you can't lay yourself off and collect. That may seem trivial to those in government, but when you are starting out every penny matters.
If my business becomes successful, and if I am able to hire employees in a year or two, I will only hire people who do not have gaps in their employment history because they choose to collect an extra $600 instead of going back to work when they could. Note the latter condition. I am understanding if they were not able to go back to work because the government shut down their employer. However, if they could have worked, they missed out on work experience. There will be someone more qualified because he worked and they didn't.
With that said, I'd love to see unemployment insurance reform. Put it in the hands of individual employees. Employees should purchase an unemployment insurance policy from a private sector insurance company with their own paychecks. That's if they want. It's a risk that they can take. Just like the risks business owners take.
And now for my little rant. Get the government the eff out of business. These lazy ass government employees and politicians don't know jack-schiff about capitalism and what it takes to run a business. They are takers, not makers. They lack real world experience and the moment they start taking any real world experience that they may have had becomes irrelevant. Their motivations for their livelihoods have changed and that supersedes all their experience.
I never thought I’d really mean this in my lifetime, but I may move to another country. If I’m going to live in a Socialist country, it won’t be here. Iceland, a Nordic country, Switzerland, Luxembourg, or maybe Costa Rica.
I won’t live where I’m despised by a bunch of non Whites.
I have said the same thing with the wife just a couple of days ago, and to a friend who is a business owner on Tuesday. He is thinking Thailand, I’m actually thinking Columbia or perhaps Panama.
If you knew me, 4th generation owner of this business, you would know exactly how serious I believe it is to even let it cross my mind, let alone seriously talk about it.
I don’t know you, but I’m from a family where generations of men have all served their country.
So, I know how serious it is to ponder aloud.
So Pelosi is in charge no matter what. Give her whatever she demands. Right...
Sack up, GOP.
IF they make this round of extra unemployment of $600 or whatever TAXABLE, watch how fast people will go back to work.
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