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We Should Consider Starting Covid-19 Vaccinations Now (I agree, on strictly volunteer basis)
Forbes ^ | August 2, 2020 | Steven Salzberg

Posted on 08/03/2020 1:09:30 AM PDT by cba123

Development of new Covid-19 vaccines is proceeding at a furious pace, which is good news for the world. We already have two vaccines in phase 3 trials in the US and Europe; each of these trials which will vaccinate many thousands of people, and then wait to see how many get infected. If the vaccines work, then in a few months’ time we’ll be able to start large-scale production.

But we don’t have to wait. Both of these vaccines (from Moderna and Oxford University/Astra Zeneca) have already been shown, in phase 1 trials, to be safe and probably effective. That’s why the companies are moving ahead and giving each vaccine to 30,000 more people: they are fairly confident that the vaccines are safe. The NY Times reports that 3 other Covid-19 vaccines are also in phase 3 trials: one from BioNTech and Pfizer, and two from Chinese companies, Sinopharm and Sinova Biotech.

So why not start administering millions of doses right now? We should.

(I agree)

(Please see link for full article)

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: covid19
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To: knarf

I don’t know the president supports the right to try for experimental medicine to save ones life from a fatal disease. We all applauded his move to allow freedom

We are being told that this disease is fatal. Why can’t we allow people at risk to make their own choice without offending the sensibilities of the antivaxxers? All we are seeing is the tyranny that people are willing to impose for their own views

It’s awful.


41 posted on 08/03/2020 4:04:18 AM PDT by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America: INCLUDING THEIR LIBERTIES)
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

Thanks for bringing some sanity into the discussion of vaccines.


42 posted on 08/03/2020 4:07:36 AM PDT by windsorknot
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

Your analysis was far superior to mine. Good seeing your setting the record straight as well! Truth will eventually prevail over uneducated hog wash.


43 posted on 08/03/2020 4:10:03 AM PDT by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America: INCLUDING THEIR LIBERTIES)
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To: gas_dr; mrsmith
I am sick of the asymptomatic spread motif.

I agree but it has nothing to do with medicine. It's purpose is to train the great unwashed in the subtleties of socialism. Once they're trained glowbull warming will be more acceptable. Our rulers are herding the sheeple.

44 posted on 08/03/2020 4:16:31 AM PDT by SanchoP (We're passed the biological softening up and beginning the open warfare strategy. WAKE UP!!)
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To: All
In case there are those who cannot see the obvious:

This coronavirus release was a planned event.

In the same way that masks are mandatory, proof of vaccination will be mandatory.

If you want to eat, if you want a job, to go grocery shopping, you will have to have a verifiable sign that you have taken the vaccine.

Do not take this vaccine if you love Jesus Christ and hope to spend eternity with Him.

There are True Believers in One World Government on this site who post their propaganda to influence your decision. Your Bible is where you should be getting your information, not some worldling who has rejected Messiah.

45 posted on 08/03/2020 4:21:37 AM PDT by .30Carbine (The Day of Return is coming)
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To: cba123

None of these supposed vaccines has had enough clinical trials to be safe. For all we know,this is a mass genetic engineering program to make the country more pliable to globalist schemes. Everything they say is full of lies. Why trust any vaccine the liar Fauci is pushing? You people are sheep.


46 posted on 08/03/2020 4:23:42 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer (Politics is the continuation of war by other means. --Clausewitz)
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To: SanchoP

Why post such stupidity on FR?
*If* you don’t get paid to?

Sure, there’s lot’s of confusion, don’t see you helping though.


47 posted on 08/03/2020 4:25:16 AM PDT by mrsmith (US MEDIA: " Every 'White' cop is a criminal! And all the 'non-white' criminals saints!")
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To: mrsmith

There is nothing common sense about taking a vaccine developed with aborted baby cells.


48 posted on 08/03/2020 4:25:59 AM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

We won’t comply. What will you and your side do about it?


49 posted on 08/03/2020 4:27:40 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer (Politics is the continuation of war by other means. --Clausewitz)
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To: PrairieLady2

There are many people, and even here on FR that don’t realize our choose to ignore the connection between vaccines and the abortion industry. There will be nothing good that comes from that.


50 posted on 08/03/2020 4:28:02 AM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: Maudeen

Yes, it sure has, but that will ruin people’s world views and they won’t be able to cope. I keep telling people this is the end move. One should really be praying and reading God’s word.


51 posted on 08/03/2020 4:29:57 AM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: DoodleDawg

Trials are necessary? Even if aborted babies were used to develop it?


52 posted on 08/03/2020 4:31:39 AM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: gas_dr

As a preface to my question: I am current on all my shots and get a flu shot every year.

Q: Are you gonna be first in line for this vaccine because, even though I’m not an anti-vaxxer, I won’t.


53 posted on 08/03/2020 4:31:40 AM PDT by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds.)
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To: Bulwyf

” a vaccine developed with aborted baby cells. “

Yeah.
Don’t think they had to do that, wonder why they did.


54 posted on 08/03/2020 4:33:20 AM PDT by mrsmith (US MEDIA: " Every 'White' cop is a criminal! And all the 'non-white' criminals saints!")
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

You just spread a lot of falsehoods. The smallpox vaccine for example killed more kids than the disease did. That’s just the start. At the end of the day though, nothing good comes from using aborted babies in the development of these vaccines. If I knew nothing else, that would be enough.


55 posted on 08/03/2020 4:35:19 AM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: Old Yeller

Like that vaccine they guilt parents in to give their kids for HPV on those commercials.


That is a particularly bad vaccine as it mathematically and practically can’t actually do what it is supposed top do. Firstly it is a vaccine against a virus that naturally lives in most of us. If it becomes out of control in a very small number of people it can cause cancer. That is true of many virus’ that live in our bodies. They are there all the time. We have always had virus’ living within us.

The stupid idea of the HPV is that they can kill it in every American. They can’t. First there is the issue that you would have to vaccinate everyone. Foreigners will not get the vaccine of course. Then there are the boosters that nobody will want. The idea is that we only have sex in our 20s with other well healed Americas. You can’t see the virus. And only know its there if you are one of the unlucky .01% who develop cancer in your 50s or 60s.

So you can’t really tell if it works. Which it won’t. But they keep giving the shots anyway. People make a lot of money off it. Cervical cancer rates are the same. But what they don’t show you is all the people who have adverse reactions. And there are lots of them. If you want to trade ASIA with cervical cancer go ahead. But there are more people who get a life long autoimmune disease from HPV than there are people who avoid cervical cancer.


56 posted on 08/03/2020 4:36:13 AM PDT by poinq
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To: Crim

It’s like a flu shot correct...won’t take it, already had Covid (I think), can’t force me to.


57 posted on 08/03/2020 4:36:54 AM PDT by krug
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To: .30Carbine

Amen brother, this is the goal of this virus.


58 posted on 08/03/2020 4:37:55 AM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: cba123

https://twitter.com/AlexJohnLondon/status/1290010400130387968

Worth a read.


59 posted on 08/03/2020 4:40:30 AM PDT by mrsmith (US MEDIA: " Every 'White' cop is a criminal! And all the 'non-white' criminals saints!")
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To: mrsmith

The abortion industry has been linked to vaccine since the 70s to my knowledge. It’s ok though because the first one was elective. That makes it ok. I’m being sarcastic. I won’t participate in anything that does that.


60 posted on 08/03/2020 4:42:30 AM PDT by Bulwyf
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