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To: rintintin

So the federal government can tell private companies to sell goods at the price the government dictates.

I am sure there is a word for that.


7 posted on 07/24/2020 1:54:07 PM PDT by FewsOrange
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To: FewsOrange

“So the federal government can tell private companies to sell goods at the price the government dictates.”

When it’s the federal government paying for the purchases, yes.


9 posted on 07/24/2020 1:54:49 PM PDT by rintintin (qu)
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To: FewsOrange

“So the federal government can tell private companies to sell goods at the price the government dictates.

I am sure there is a word for that.”

Let me guess, you supported Cruz in the primaries. Or Scott Walker. And you happily voted for Bush in 2004, McCain in 2008 and Romney in 2012, because they’re great on “capitalism”


10 posted on 07/24/2020 1:56:01 PM PDT by rintintin (qu)
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To: FewsOrange

He is telling suppliers we are only going to pay X for your product. If you don’t like it, fine. Go and try to find somebody else who can buy in our volume.

This is Standard Operating Procedure for the buyers at Walmart.


11 posted on 07/24/2020 1:56:19 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer)
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To: FewsOrange

“I am sure there is a word for that”

Yeah. Good Business.

They don’t want to sell at that price, don’t gotta sell it.


14 posted on 07/24/2020 1:59:30 PM PDT by Regulator
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To: FewsOrange
Are you a pharmaceutical middleman?
15 posted on 07/24/2020 2:00:17 PM PDT by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord. (Psalm 32:12))
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To: FewsOrange

“So the federal government can tell private companies to sell goods at the price the government dictates.’

No, it is telling drug companies you can’t sell drug X for $50.00 in Hong Kong and $500.00 in the US. This actually happens all the time. I have a prescription that was under $50 US dollars in HK. The same exact drug by the same manufacturer is $583.00 in Houston. There is no free market involved. If you need a drug it is often paying for it or die.

To be fair, PDJT should do an EO that limits the ability of ambulance-chasing lawyers to sue over the side effects of drugs. I think a huge part of this problem Dewey, Cheetham & Howe having their fat fingers in the pie.


17 posted on 07/24/2020 2:01:27 PM PDT by Fai Mao (There is no justice until The PIAPS is legally executed)
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To: FewsOrange

The word is called bypassing the middleman. They are going to buy the same drugs from a different distributor.


18 posted on 07/24/2020 2:01:42 PM PDT by Cold Heart (Legalize Hydoxychlorquin)
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To: FewsOrange

That’s not what Trump is saying.

Trump is telling Big Pharma that American taxpayers won’t make up the difference for losses incurred through foreign price controls.


19 posted on 07/24/2020 2:02:25 PM PDT by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds.)
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To: FewsOrange

So the federal government can tell private companies to sell goods at the price the government dictates.

I am sure there is a word for that.

*******

Strip away all the federal subsidies and they’ll stop playing their Lets Rob Americans Blind games real fast.


20 posted on 07/24/2020 2:02:27 PM PDT by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: FewsOrange
The current Executive Branch is finally emulating other countries when negotiating price points with the pharms.

The pharms can always tell governments to get bent if they don't like the price point, however, they don't. Since the Federal government is the largest single payer in our country, it's only reasonable that the body negotiates price. Do you have a problem with that?
24 posted on 07/24/2020 2:04:22 PM PDT by rollo tomasi
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To: FewsOrange
So the federal government can tell private companies to sell goods at the same price the government foreign governments pay.

I am sure there is a word for that.
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Sanity.

per shiffhardin.com:

"Most favored nation clauses (MFNs), sometimes also referred to as most favored customer clauses, are agreements in which a supplier agrees to treat a particular customer no worse than all other customers (see Standard Clause, General Contract Clauses, Most Favored Customer (www.practicallaw.com/8-510-7389))."
31 posted on 07/24/2020 2:14:26 PM PDT by HombreSecreto (The life of a repo man is always intense)
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To: FewsOrange
Not exactly. Canada and other countries cut sweetheat deals to buy Rx fr their national schemes. Drug companies can afford to do such deals because their monopolies are subsidized by American consumers.

The result is that other countries will probably see price increases without the captive American consumer subsidy. This is more efficient than asking U.S. customs to stop obstructing re-import of drugs from Canada. It is also good politics.

35 posted on 07/24/2020 2:22:00 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (The politicized state destroys aspects of civil society, human kindness and private charity.)
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To: FewsOrange

It’s about who’s paying for it.
I can buy insulin at Walmart over the counter for $25 apiece but if insurance pays for it it’s $200.


38 posted on 07/24/2020 2:25:17 PM PDT by BiteYourSelf
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To: FewsOrange

No. Medicare will shop the marketplace.


44 posted on 07/24/2020 2:42:25 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isnÂ’t common anymore.)
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To: FewsOrange

There is a reason that drug companies are abe to sell to USA for $$$ and dirt cheap to other countries- GOVERNMENT CONTROL.

Let’s say you invented a drug that, oh - I dunno, allowed men to have more sex. Let’s call it ‘viagara’.

Do you think it would be in-demand at all? Do you think you could mass-produce it and sell it all over for pennies?

OR...

Would you prefer the government dictate that insurance companies HAVE TO cover it, at the introductory list price of $50 a pill.


52 posted on 07/24/2020 3:07:50 PM PDT by Mr. K (NO CONSEQUENCE OF REPEALING OBAMACARE IS WORSE THAN OBAMACARE ITSELF)
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To: FewsOrange
In a world where government provides all healthcare, that word is monopsony.

What we essentially have now is the rest of the world foists drug development costs onto the backs of the American taxpayer by negotiating artificially low prices with the unstated threat to ignore patents and to produce a generic locally if an agreement can’t be made. It is always the case where a super-premier buyer controls the costs he will be charged.

67 posted on 07/24/2020 6:18:33 PM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (When your business model depends on slave labor, you're always going to need more slaves)
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To: FewsOrange

Is price-fixing moral? (or legal for that matter)

Is it right for these companies to charge us, the captive market in America much more than they are willing to accept from others? Isn’t that a form of involuntary wealth redistribution?

I’m interested in the counter argument. Is this really a “free’ market? If the right to produce a drug is controlled by the govt, and the govt forbids us from buying oversees, is it then wrong expect that the govt makes sure we don’t get screwed too badly in the controlled system they set up?


69 posted on 07/24/2020 7:04:25 PM PDT by PTBAA
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To: FewsOrange

When the Federal govt is the buyer yeh they can decide what they want to pay.


73 posted on 07/25/2020 8:35:43 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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