[entropy12]

YES vote on mask.

[Mr. Jeeves]

Which brings me to the nub of the matter. Redfield has convinced me that if I wear a mask, we can beat this plague.

If we just lock down for two weeks, we can beat this plague...

[MayflowerMadam]

Posted by Mom MD on another thread.

Everyone should watch this.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=zJ6k1RHE4QA

All good, but best starting at around 1:20

[budj]

If you are in busy, crowded places and you wear a mask and you fail to frequently wash your hands with warm soapy water then you are wasting your time.

[MortMan]

I hope that he and the pulchritudinous Dr. Deborah Birx will take note of this column. I have changed my tune. I have been won over by the advocates of masks. It was Redfield and his argument in the JAMA that convinced me. He believes the pandemic can be brought under control in four to eight weeks, if "we could get everybody to wear a mask right now." In a signed editorial, he said there is "ample evidence" that masks assist in reducing transmission of the virus. Think of it! We could limit this horrible plague to a few weeks -- if we all worked together.

There is also "ample evidence" from past peer reviewed studies that masks do nothing to prevent virus transmission. That past evidence also identifies that masks can cause significant harm to the individual under certain circumstances.

Three months ago the refrain was "two weeks to flatten the curve". Then "thirty days to slow the spread". Now "four to eight weeks to bring the pandemic under control".

At what point does it end?

I'm sure the author is well intentioned, but I cannot find it in myself to trust the "experts" who have been on every imaginable side of every imaginable issue with regard to this weaponized flu. Your mileage may vary.

[eyeamok]

I saw some Brand New State of the Art Screening to help keep flies and mosquitos out of your Homes while still allowing fresh air in. It offers at least 10 times the protection against insects that masks offer against a Virus.



Virus/Viron= .1 Micron
Mask filters out up to 20 microns at best

[FreedomNotSafety]

If we were masks we will overcome “the plague”. Will we? The virus does not disappear. When the mask come off the spread restarts. Every Corona virus we have ever experienced is still out there. The only way this virus stops is the “old fashioned” way of mass immunity. That only stops the massive spread, the virus still remains and will continue to afflict people every year.

No mask. If you are vulnerable you should isolate yourself until everyone else is exposed. Then you will be safe...mostly.

A vaccine? For many people side effects from a vaccine will be more of a problem than exposure.

No mask

[MayflowerMadam]

“the pulchritudinous Dr. Deborah Birx”

If that word means what I think it means after three years of Latin ... Birx is NOT. Dried up old prune.

[Jan_Sobieski]

So let me get this straight...we need to STOP herd immunity?

No more flattering the curve and letting the virus run it’s course like EVERY OTHER VIRUS.

Ok...Hmm...that goes against everything I have ever heard about herd immunity

[jpl]

I vote that it's a free country. As far as I'm concerned, anyone who actually wants to spend their rest of their life terrified of everything is perfectly free to do so, and I won't try to stop them.

But I'm not terrified, and I won't be intimidated into believing that I should be, because I know that it's a bunch of politically motivated BS.

[Kirkwood]

Every day I wear clothing, shoes, and a hat to protect the outside of my body. When the situation calls for it, I wear a mask to protect the insides. Pretty simple approach to staying healthy and comfortable.

[Dr. Sivana]

I wrote in this column about what I saw as a looming conflict between those who advocate wearing masks to protect themselves from the Wuhan virus [ . . . ] and those carefree Americanos who think that they might take their chances and go about their business maskless.

He is assuming his conclusion as a fact. Masks offer little protection. I am far from a carefree Americano. The fact is that everyone living his life is "taking his chances". Secular sacaramentals have been presented as magic talismans for a modern age.

Tyrell is old enough to consider Dr. Birx pulchritudinous rather than "well-preserved". If he doesn't want to take his chances, which might be rational in his case, he might consider staying home, and take deliveries, also taking walks in the sunshine for vitamin D. I for one will not take the word of one of many conflicting authorities who contradict themselves over time as well as each other "If we just ..." and then posits doing something that won't happen (everyone wearing the right kind of masks in the right manner all the time), only to change the rules after we prostrate ourselves again for 6-8 weeks.

[ROCKLOBSTER]

The Training Burka is a diaper on your face, full of pathogens....It needs to be changed often.

It’s also a big waste of masks. Just stay away from each other if you’re skeered.

[ConservativeInPA]

People can wear a mask if they want. But do not force people to wear masks. Do not force people to do anything that would make their lives different than a year ago. Do not close businesses or place regulations on them. Do not destroy people's lives and everything they have built. Do not hijack this election.

To me, mask are ineffective. They are a clear symbol of someone that is willing to sacrifice freedom for safety. With that said, if you have medical condition and you feel better wearing a mask, go ahead. But why didn't you do that in the flu season two years ago?

[ripnbang]

Dr. Deborah Birx, pulchritudinous, really? Additionally, the goal posts keep moving...first, no masks, they’re not necessary. Then, stay home and close all non-essential business for a few weeks (then months, then ?) as that will eradicate the virus. Then you can’t go to church or shopping, but you can gather in large crowds for “mostly peaceful protests”, now, everyone wear masks for 4-6 weeks. Add to the equation the misinformation/disinformation about numbers, cases, contacts, actions by Governors putting COVID patients in nursing homes and other Governors trying to regulate every aspect of daily life, travel, etc., forget it. Then add the fact that there is $$$ to be made on research, padding numbers of patients for reimbursements at hospitals, $$$ for developing vaccines...forget it. Lastly, it’s an election year...so you can doubly count on politics being involved. Sorry, the CDC, Fauci, Birx, et al, no longer have credibility. You want to wear a mask? Fine, then wear one. For others that don’t want to? Fine, don’t, but realize you may be restricted from where you can enter (business choice) and what you can do in the public...life is about choices and balancing freedom vs. risk. This is America (still) and we balance freedom vs. risk, every day...this is just another one of those things balance freedom and risks.

[Erik Latranyi]

We did not wear masks and flattened the curve.

The virus went down. Now that masks were implemented, the virus is coming back.

I call BULLSHIP it can be stopped in 2-4 weeks.

The 1918 Spanish Flu is still around. Viruses do not go away. As soon as you stop with mitigation it will return.

Time for herd immunity and protect the vulnerable.

[jeffc]

The two stores I shop at, Publix and Walmart, are now requiring masks in their Dunnellon and Ocala stores. I have no choice. I was thinking of a MAGA mask or TRUMP 2020, but I think I'll settle for a Zoso mask (Led Zeppelin).

Also, I buy as much as I can online for store pickup, but the local Publix doesn't offer it (sad face)...

[caww]

Demorats assure us that masks work .....Sooooo-oooo then everybody can vote ‘in person’ in the Presidential election!

[tinyowl]

Mask or no mask, this piece shows signs of dangerous naiveté about the honesty and various agendas of those in government and private industry. It would be nice to think we have private industry, but in our biggest industries we have a hybrid collective - a Frankenstein of socialism, fascism ( in the literal, not antifa sense), and corrupt private, mixed with a little good old fashioned laissez faire private capitalism. Since in any compromise between food and poison death wins, our larger industries' 'private' companies are poisonous with government influence and frankly 'influence' is too weak a word -> like saying epoxy is 'influenced' by the hardener.

He seems to not be aware of this - not just the extent - but unaware of the entire set of realities whatsoever.

[1Old Pro]

The pandemic must be over in NYS, the stores are going back to eliminating plastic bags and mandating you bring your own filthy dirty covid laced reusable bags to help the transfer.