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Army's 'Captain America' dies by suicide after nearly a dozen combat tours
Fox News ^ | July 10, 2020 | Jennifer Griffin

Posted on 07/10/2020 4:00:56 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum

Edited on 07/10/2020 4:01:44 PM PDT by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

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To: Robocop5626

The only way to eliminate endless war is a comprehensive draft with zero deferrals. Everyone drafted goes straight into combat,

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Modern warfare is not a straight to combat situation - a whole lot of training and retraining is necessary before hand, unless your objective is to create cannon fodder.


181 posted on 07/11/2020 4:48:32 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: Responsibility2nd

So, just what are your bona fides?

Many men better than us this way pass and if not for the Grace of God....


182 posted on 07/11/2020 5:40:48 AM PDT by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War")
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To: Midwesterner53

Oh I think many did see warning signs.....and that they were also were doing what they could outside of commiting him against his will.

We don’t now what was said betwen the Commander and this soldier. Could have been many things including trying to get him to commit himself and his wife was aware of that prior....there are many unanswered questions and plenty of theories.

They will work things out because whatever tripped his action to commit suicide in front of his wife and kids was extreme even for one suicidal.


183 posted on 07/11/2020 5:51:48 AM PDT by caww
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To: Responsibility2nd
victims of broken homes

amen

184 posted on 07/11/2020 6:35:15 AM PDT by Theophilus (Mask America Great Again)
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To: delta7
Exactly, you do NOT understand that America still raises warriors.

I'd rather America did not spend those brave warriors in pointless, endless wars. I hope that's something you understand.
185 posted on 07/11/2020 7:10:39 AM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: ZagFan
I think you mean Liz Cheney,the representative from Wyoming who’s VP Dick’s daughter, not Lynne Cheney, Dick’s wife.

My mistake, thanks for pointing it out.
186 posted on 07/11/2020 7:11:40 AM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: Redwood71
We can either (a) keep troops stationed forever in Afghanistan, where they will fight an endless series of battles and campaigns launched by the Taliban and sponsored by Pakistan (and made possible through our military aid to Pakistan), or (b) we can withdraw altogether.

We've tried option (a) since December of 2001. It's been almost 20 years, and we've seen far too many young American heroes killed or maimed in Afghanistan while the source of the troubles - Pakistan - continues its antics using our taxpayer money. It's time to bring them all home, end all military support for Pakistan, and treat that nation like the enemy it is.
187 posted on 07/11/2020 7:18:32 AM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: Trailerpark Badass

Always love the sissies on FR who engage in direct personal attacks. No, I wouldn’t as you say “tell that to his widow and kids.” No, this doesn’t have anything to do with “virtue signaling.” Just calling a coward (or two) out for who they are instead of engaging in this ridiculous hero worship that has Leavenworth truck repairmen who never had a day in theater much less combat filing for PTSD and 100% disability and taking teary salutes at the local VFW.


188 posted on 07/11/2020 9:26:58 AM PDT by golux
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To: Responsibility2nd

The new way to do things, as you see by the deletion of your original post,

when one is “offended,”

is not to argue, but to erase what offends:

to cancel it.

And here we are, on Free Republic!


189 posted on 07/11/2020 9:31:22 AM PDT by golux
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To: PIF

War changes everyone who experiences it.
Some die during the experience, ‘
some live through the experience,
but are never the same person they were before....

Will this crap EVER end? War did not change me. Combat did not change me.

This country is so insane with genuflecting over every sonofabitch who served it’s disgusting.

Suicide is NOT honorable. Honorable men do not commit suicide in front of their wife and kids.


190 posted on 07/11/2020 9:36:46 AM PDT by golux
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

“..and treat that nation like the enemy it is.”

Was there. I don’t think the country is the enemy as much as the ISL groups. The people of the country have just learned to turn a deaf ear to all of it and accept their status as collateral damage. It’s been going on for centuries.

But you and I don’t have a difference of opinion concerning the removal of the troops. The people worrying about it in congress are concerned about outside occupation of terrorists in a country that has had this for generations anyway and is no different than their surrounding countries like Pakistan and Iran. I feel they are trying to extend the action to cover the screw up by Obama when he escalated that area.

So this has nothing to do with ISL. It has to do with USA politics. For them it’s just another day at the federal building trying to cover someone’s a$$ and keep the unrest in the US as bad as it can be manipulated to to get votes.

rwood


191 posted on 07/11/2020 9:52:44 AM PDT by Redwood71
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To: golux

Sorry to upset you. Just relating my experiences. Were you always this angry?


192 posted on 07/11/2020 10:36:52 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: AnotherUnixGeek
Sympathies to this brave man's family and friends. I don't understand why it was necessary for him to serve six full tours in Afghanistan except people like Lynn Cheney seem bent on keeping us there.

Well, someone has to protect the poppy fields.

193 posted on 07/11/2020 11:12:38 AM PDT by zeugma (Stop deluding yourself that America is still a free country.)
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To: Alberta's Child
Every prick in Congress and the White House back then should have had at least a half-dozen family members drafted and sent to both Afghanistan and Iraq.

As infantry. Not REMFs

194 posted on 07/11/2020 11:19:20 AM PDT by zeugma (Stop deluding yourself that America is still a free country.)
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

I can understand the confusion between Liz and Lynne—they both have the same ANNOYING voice. I’d rather hear nails on a chalkboard than either of them speak.


195 posted on 07/11/2020 12:05:44 PM PDT by ZagFan
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To: caww

Well said.


196 posted on 07/11/2020 1:07:30 PM PDT by Gator113 ( ~~Remember Christopher Newsom and Channon Christian.)
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To: ryderann; All

I suspect he discovered some things about his “job” at the Pentagon that made him realize that he had fought the soldiers’ fight for America for nothing. The trashing of all American heritage, even being abetted by many politicians and bureaucrats in Washington DC must have weighed heavily on his mind. Perhaps certain folks were wanting to “leverage” him to the point of even threatening his family so he felt the only way to save them was to off himself....perhaps the wife was not an innocent in all this. It is a shame he did it with his children in the house....
what a tragedy!


197 posted on 07/11/2020 1:33:36 PM PDT by mdmathis6
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To: mdmathis6

Sort of what I was thinking...that he was told he’d be expected to do such and such.


198 posted on 07/11/2020 1:44:03 PM PDT by ryderann
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To: PAR35

The wife knows something or the soldier found out something about the wife that just cut his heart out from him....otherwise most just go somewhere privately to do the deed....
Something indeed stinks about this....

Perhaps he just went crazy out of solipsistic guilt, being tired of feeling like he was carrying the weight of the world and just ended it all, not caring who was around....

But the wife knows something...and she ain’t telling what. I wonder what a bit of digging around would uncover....


199 posted on 07/11/2020 1:49:47 PM PDT by mdmathis6
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To: Chgogal

It also seems beyond the laws of averages....just what the hell happend and what did these guys go thru and did things happen or did they do things that could be held against them. A good investigative reporter(maybe Herridge) should dig in)...I’ll bet the story would be heartbreaking and epic!


200 posted on 07/11/2020 1:57:17 PM PDT by mdmathis6
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