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Army's 'Captain America' dies by suicide after nearly a dozen combat tours
Fox News ^ | July 10, 2020 | Jennifer Griffin

Posted on 07/10/2020 4:00:56 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum

Edited on 07/10/2020 4:01:44 PM PDT by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

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To: Hot Tabasco

What has happened to FR HT? How a hate filled poster like that get’s to stay here is beyond me. It is the main reason I do not participate here anywhere near what I used to.


161 posted on 07/10/2020 6:36:09 PM PDT by bobby.223 (Retired up in the snowy Mountains of the American Redoubt and it's a great life!)
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

Exactly, you do NOT understand that America still raises warriors. Thank God there are more willing and able to SERVE voluntarily in harms way. On that note, my best buddy a few years ago unexpectedly committed suicide after three tours. In these days of a fear ridden society, it is obvious we need more righteous warriors like these men, they can never be replaced.


162 posted on 07/10/2020 6:40:56 PM PDT by delta7
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To: dforest
There is no set timetable for grief pain.....and any unsuspected/traggic death can raise questions as suicide does....quilt, regret, and a host of questions rise that will not be answered this side of heaven...

There were a lot of questions after 9/11 .....and those murdeous acts certainly will never be understood in entire.

163 posted on 07/10/2020 6:52:57 PM PDT by caww
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To: caww

If they knew each other that well, the CSM should have seen warning signs. I suppose he has a lot of guilt now too. I pray for the wife and kids. Terrible situation.


164 posted on 07/10/2020 7:00:15 PM PDT by Midwesterner53
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To: rockrr

“I pray that the family of Master Sgt. Marckesano can find peace.”

Me too. Must have been hell for him.


165 posted on 07/10/2020 7:02:13 PM PDT by Concentrate (ex-texan was right and Always Right was wrong, which is why we lost the election.)
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To: bray

We are there because of George Bush and his neocon buddies wanting to remake the world. It didn’t work.


166 posted on 07/10/2020 7:08:03 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX ("Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy." - Franz Kafka)
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To: Midwesterner53

“Both the active military and the VA have intense programs to save suicidal folks. All a person has to do is ask.”

Sometimes “asking” is THE difficult task. One sloughs off whatever-whoever the bother with “teammate X needs my help” or “things will get better”. Finally, one finds themselves beyond points previously rationalized with no way out. MSG.’s last act probably made all the sense in the world to him.

Semper Fi All


167 posted on 07/10/2020 7:11:54 PM PDT by Huaynero
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To: tet68

“The father of someone I knew
tried and only managed to blow off part of his face.
His daughter heard the shot and found him in a pool of
blood begging her to finish him off.”

This is why I believe there should be euthanasia boxes on demand. Kind of like tanning boxes, except you press a button and it releases gasses that kill you painlessly.

Other forms of suicide are too sad and messy. Too traumatizing to the clean up crew.

I was on the LIRR when a man in his 40’s jumped right in front of the train speeding through the station at the end of the platform.
He knew what he was doing and which train would speed through. I was in the first car and heard his body parts disassemble under the train.It was terrible.

So, the point is that you don’t have the right to snuff someone else’s life out, like in abortion,or murder, but you do have the right to commit suicide.

I say that the state has no right to make you suffer in life.


168 posted on 07/10/2020 7:43:13 PM PDT by Concentrate (ex-texan was right and Always Right was wrong, which is why we lost the election.)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

The only way to eliminate endless war is a comprehensive draft with zero deferrals. Everyone drafted goes straight into combat, no in the rear or reserves for the wealthy and connected. War would be limited to CONUS thereafter.


169 posted on 07/10/2020 7:50:06 PM PDT by Robocop5626
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To: Midwesterner53
Boot licking love affair with warriors? Go to he!!. (That’s from me and all the soldiers I worked with over a full career as an Army officer)

Yes, I was an Army officer as well. OIF. I never felt it was an officer-like quality to tell people to go to hell (that's from me, I do not speak for 'all the soldiers I worked with,') but allow me to say "thank you for your service," as so many like to be told again and again as they pull out their little discount cards and talk like Rambo.
170 posted on 07/10/2020 8:15:36 PM PDT by golux
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To: DJ MacWoW

“I agree. And the Terri threads were brutal.”
I remember. I was there. It was nasty.
What ever did happen to her? I can’t remember.


171 posted on 07/10/2020 8:43:58 PM PDT by Concentrate (ex-texan was right and Always Right was wrong, which is why we lost the election.)
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To: Midwesterner53

“Suicide is pointless.”

Not necessarily. What’s so great about life if you’re in terrible pain or terminally ill?


172 posted on 07/10/2020 8:47:06 PM PDT by Concentrate (ex-texan was right and Always Right was wrong, which is why we lost the election.)
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To: Fury

I don’t understand why the Army sends somebody to so many combat deployments; at some point, that person can never really come back. I also don’t understand why somebody serves in the military AND has a family simultaneously; it would be almost as tragic if he had died in combat (in terms of depriving them of a husband and father). Many marriages don’t survive endless deployments.

Prayers for all involved.


173 posted on 07/10/2020 8:48:12 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Tragic. How old was he ?


174 posted on 07/10/2020 9:01:17 PM PDT by PLMerite ("They say that we were Cold Warriors. Yes, and a bloody good show, too." - Robert Conquest)
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To: golux

It sure may be. But posting that crap here is BS virtue signalling, like I said. Grow some balls and go tell it to his widow and kids.


175 posted on 07/10/2020 10:05:05 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (“There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach,” said one woman.)
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To: bobby.223; Responsibility2nd

It’s become a place to show off and get attention, like Twitter.


176 posted on 07/10/2020 10:11:18 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (“There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach,” said one woman.)
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To: caww

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0037323/


177 posted on 07/10/2020 11:32:38 PM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt, The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

I think you mean Liz Cheney,the representative from Wyoming who’s VP Dick’s daughter, not Lynne Cheney, Dick’s wife. Unless Lynne is engaging in policy now and I don’t know about it.


178 posted on 07/11/2020 2:26:37 AM PDT by ZagFan
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Very sad.


179 posted on 07/11/2020 3:30:26 AM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: combat_boots

I know someone still around who’s in a similar situation. Still around but much changed.

```
War changes everyone who experiences it.
Some die during the experience, ‘
some live through the experience,
but are never the same person they were before.
We become “other”
people who have a very difficult time connecting
who we were before with who we are after.
We live in a timeless time
never here never there always the unbearable agony
that must be borne alone with just ghosts
phantoms for company.
The living make noises at us
but they are noises for the person before
we cannot hear understand
Its in that in between time,
we lose it are lost wandering
some fall over the cliff
some don’t.
Its a crap shoot.
Alone we search for an anchor
finding none are lost.


180 posted on 07/11/2020 4:43:24 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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