Posted on 07/03/2020 9:16:34 AM PDT by EdnaMode
There is a rise in Coronavirus cases because our testing is so massive and so good, far bigger and better than any other country. This is great news, but even better news is that death, and the death rate, is DOWN. Also, younger people, who get better much easier and faster!
Not to me. I just sorta fake my way through it. Lol
... What?
That isn't how the immune system works. You don't get antibodies against "everything" regardless of what the infection you had was. Memory B cells are the primary long term defense and they function based on the specific antigens you've actually been exposed to. Further, immunity is quite often not permanent to what you were exposed to. For instance, Of the 7 coronaviruses known to infect humans, four of them show an effective immune response only 1-3 years after infection (the other three are currently unknown). One of the scary things about measles is that it wipes out Memory B cells, leaving you without any of the immunity you've built up to previous pathogens.
If you have any interest in learning more, this video is really great at breaking things down: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQGOcOUBi6s
Now we need prescription-free sales of HCQ!
petitfour wrote:
“Sounds like you did get it.”
Could be.
I had no fever or cough, but couldn’t get ‘over’ a yawn easily; breath would ‘stick’, then it would finally get over the hump as it were.
Had a slight headache, and was tired, but had no muscle aches.
“You don’t get antibodies against “everything”
I know you mean well, so thank you.
I was using poetic license of a sort to establish a point.
Fair enough. I just see a lot of inaccurate statements made about how the body works and sometimes it’s tough to distinguish where somebody’s just trying to make a point and where somebody just genuinely doesn’t understand. Take care!
perusing the CDC this morning to get a sense of how they arrive at their estimates each of flu illnesses and deaths each year.
I am using 2018/2019 as an example
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/2018-2019.html
Seems like the death to illness ration in any given year is 1,000 times.
CDC estimates that the burden of illness during the 20182019 season included an estimated 35.5 million people getting sick with influenza, 16.5 million people going to a health care provider for their illness, 490,600 hospitalizations, and 34,200 deaths from influenza (Table 1). The number of influenza-associated illnesses that occurred last season was similar to the estimated number of influenza-associated illnesses during the 20122013 influenza season when an estimated 34 million people had symptomatic influenza illness.
35,500,000 ÷ 34,200= 1038(I’ll use a simple 1,000 as my denominator below)
So, lets pretend there have been 100,000 covid deaths this year. I say pretend because the people doing the counting are pretending as well and classifying every death they can as Covid, which in many cases was never tested for and in others was not the primary cause ie gunshot victims in Washington state being classified as Covid death, not lead poisoning.
That would put at about 100,000,000 million infected which I’ll caveat again as being too low.
We are told this virus propagates faster than any other virus ever and does everything but make my bed and a cup of coffee.
My numbers are just as much of a guess as theirs and I am not allowing that this thing has spread faster because that would make their case worse and weaker. I could use the WHO
But, sticking with their numbers the mortality of this thing is par with the flu.
If my math is right 100,000 ÷ 100,000,000= 0.1%
Flu rate for 2018-2019 was 34,200 ÷ 35,500,000 = 0.1%
PS
I could have used the WHO Coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19)
Situation Report 46:
https://www.who.int/docs/default-source/coronaviruse/situation-reports/20200306-sitrep-46-covid-19.pdf?sfvrsn=96b04adf_4
While the true mortality of
COVID-19 will take some time to fully understand, the data we have so far indicate that the crude mortality ratio (the
number of reported deaths divided by the reported cases) is between 3-4%, the infection mortality rate (the number
of reported deaths divided by the number of infections) will be lower.
Total Bullshit
Really?
Here is one instance: Texas
Take 59 seconds to watch the video and you can download the definitions in a link below that
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/07/02/explosive-about-all-these-new-positive-covid-cases-state-health-departments-manipulating-data-changing-definitions/
They go from 1 tested and confirmed to 17 “probable” in their methodology...
You can’t enter a store because people are “saving lives”
They can be fined for not enforcing the mask fraud according to a friend who owns a store...
I've seen that before and it's very nice. The problem is, the case numbers being reported daily and that you constantly see are confirmed cases, not probables.
Skeptical? Look at the Texas HHS website:
Probable cases are not included in the total case numbers.
Now the CDC has a different definition of probable cases that includes people who have been diagnosed based on symptoms or other direct evidence but weren't given a PCR test. Texas may be including those, as they should.
huhhhh
Well, let’s try my county Santa Clara:
Data in this dashboard provide information on the number of hospitalized patients with confirmed or suspected COVID-19. Some individuals who become infected with COVID-19 may develop symptoms that require emergency care and receive treatment at a hospital. Other patients with COVID-19 may be in the hospital for unrelated reasons but still require precautions because of their infectious status.
https://www.sccgov.org/sites/covid19/Pages/dashboard-hospitals.aspx
We have supposedly had 4849 cases since the beginning of March.
Gosh, I would think most of them have resolved but, that information isn’t anywhere. They paint it took as if we still have 4849 “Active”
We don’t.
Up until June 21st we had around 3,400 cases beginning in March. I’m gonna swing for the bleachers on this and say 3250 have resolved.
We did, until that day, have a cumulative of 150 Covid deaths and 10 more from then until yesterday.
These guys are demonstrable liars and will not tell you the good news.
Covid was not a death sentence for those people.
That's not surprising. Since most of the cases were probably very mild there was no hospitalization and no way to know when they resolved.
I'm sure Santa Clara doesn't have the resources to follow up periodically with everyone who may have tested positive. It would be a real waste of manpower.
Went to your link and can’t find Probable Cases aren’t included
Clicked on their dashboard and went to page 3 where it says “Estimated Active Cases by County”
Second line of text on the page under the header graphic.
In bold.
My guess is they've gotten a lot of inquiries from that CTH nonsense.
i see it now
thnx
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