Posted on 07/02/2020 9:16:45 AM PDT by antidemoncrat
As coronavirus cases continue to surge across the country, students in Tuscaloosa, Alabama, have started throwing COVID-19 parties. The first attendee to become infected wins money, according to Tuscaloosa City Councilor Sonya McKinstry.
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I choose to not wear a mask. Please grant me the same courtesy."
I’m not interested in making cowards comfortable. In fact, f I cared any less, I’d be comatose
Dude,,, I stand with you on this,,,,,,
In other words, "I do consider myself vulnerable but decided my hairdo was more vulnerable so I had it done by someone not wearing the mask - which probably would not have helped in that relatively long-term, in-close scenario anyway."
I wish you well, but don't agree with your logic.
Have you considered the Dr Z protocol? It has worked for old and young, existing conditions, etc. Because it can very cheaply prevent you from getting sick instead of trying to rescue you and other vulnerable from your expected worse-than-most sickness if you catch the bug.
If Trump was a Democrat, they'd be putting statues of him on all the empty pedestals right now for being a hero and PERSONALLY testing the falsely-called 'untested' drugs for all to see.
Obviously, the govt is not on our side in this in many ways and maybe you don't have easy access to HCQ+ protocol. If so, your complaint should be against the authorities which are preventing you from cheap safety while also preventing the vast, vast majority from developing herd immunity the way God's nature is designed.
50 years from now these kids will be the same as those they hold in youthful contempt. Wish I could be alive then to see their angst and fear when it happens to them.
People it could possibly kill? Like my older brother with two different cancers, pancreatitis, gastritis, bad lungs, regular heart attacks, and constant shortness of breath at 46 years of age? He still refuses to wear a mask, and has accepted death. He told all of us he will not wear a mask because our family has fought and killed and died in too many wars to die on our knees like defeated slaves. Better to die upholding the free will of not wearing a sheeple mask.
WE. WILL. ALL. BE. INFECTED.
If someone is susceptible to death due to covid, wear a mask. I don’t care. Just know that they will eventually catch it and will likely die. There is no escape. Get straight with God if you haven’t already is my advice.
All I ever see around here anymore is people telling themselves the younger generation, millennials like myself don’t care for freedom, a bunch of cowardly pansies, socialists, etc, and then when I stand up to the “new normal” of this socialism shit sandwich, I’m killing people. From the same people who say freedom is worth dying for.
I PRACTICE WHAT I PREACH.
I always looked up to this site, and to freepers when I was a kid and my mother, God rest her soul, was an active member of free republic. I always valued the patriotism and resistance to the encroaching communism, and the educated people found here. That said, the older I get the more I see a lot of people paying lip service. They fry people who think like I do. Freedom is great until it endangers them, then they demand people to wear a mask! I’m not talking about anyone on this particular thread, but it happens.
Sorry about the rant. All the bad news lately is just a serious downer and I’m pissed about current events.
Jesus Christ I need a drink.
Buck up, young Dude. You are right. They are wrong.
But don't be mad at them, fear is powerful. And it grows wildly within today's flood of lies and famine for truth.
And the fear is certainly not all unjustified. Being old and/or vulnerable is one thing. Being told by your gov't that you can't have medicine that is comically cheap, extremely safe and demonstrably effective is another type of scary.
Nature can be scary. Tyrants are scary. Some people are targeted by both. We should be as forceful about demanding access to treatment for these folks as we are about demanding Freedom from the facial dunce cap.
Also, good strategy asking for a drink from the one Guy we know can literally make you one - and have enough left over for the rest of us. It is in His resume.
Yes
i’m not just standing on this roof, waiting for someone to save me, I’m jumping in the water, and swimming boldly to safety, and if I die, I die.
As you drown.....
Hmm, I think I see a chopper in the distance, over where my house was.......
Point: If a mask is 20% effective, and others wearing a mask while you wear one is 80% effective (these are measurable numbers, and of course depend on what exactly is a “mask”), you cut your chances of getting the disease on a particular day by 80%.
Eventually, you might get it, although if the young people aren’t wearing masks, and you hit 60% infected rates, it could well die out and you’ll never get it.
And if we get a vaccine before you die, you’ll never get it.
If someone hates masks, and would rather die, then that is their choice. If someone decides not to wear a mask because “they will get it eventually”, that is not a scientifically accurate statement. No disease has ever spread to an entire population, most die out somewhere after 50%-60% or so get it or are vaccinated, as this becomes a defacto distancing.
I’m all for choice (although given that the mask is 70% effective in protecting OTHERS, a choice not to wear one is not a “brave choice to stand up to the virus”, it is a choice to not care if you infect other people).
But choices are best made when informed.
Rationalize it any way you want. I don’t care in the least. I have said my piece.
With all due respect to your dear brother, how did wearing a mask or not wearing a mask equate to being "defeated slaves" and becoming "sheeple"? What does one have to do with the other?
Although many will, I don't think everybody in the United States will eventually get this virus. It's not as contagious as measles or mumps and plagues of the past have been completely eradicated (small pox, polio for example. Nothing wrong in wanting to die of old age and not some pestilence.
BTW, I'm fine with your and your brothers personal decision. I don't see how that decision either way makes anyone a "cowardly pansy" or a "socialist" or someone who doesn't value freedom. Believe me, I as well as you value patriotism and resistance to socialism/communism and I have been a believer in the Great I AM since childhood.
Yes, what's going on in this country right now is a serious downer. I can only pray that it will not lead to the demise of the nation.
Enjoyed the conversation. Best to you and yours.
“...And if we get a vaccine before you die, you’ll never get it... But choices are best made when informed.”
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Just so that you’re fully “informed”, no vaccine is 100% effective. Most are between 85% and 95% effective.
And, yes, I understand your point about herd immunity.
Vaccine is like herd immunity, it is effective because it reduces the number of people who can get and spread. As CDC noted, a vaccine has value so long as it is at least 50% effective — because if you vaccinate 100% of the population, and 50% get real immunity, you are at 50% on the “herd immunity” scale, and spread will very likely have an R0 of less than 1.
Personally, if it wasn’t stupidly getting states to lock down again, I’d be all for the young people getting infected at high rates. The quicker we get them done, the quicker we reach herd immunity.
Frankly, I still think we’ll have an antibody treatment before we have a vaccine.
I did ask my hair dresser to put on a mask to cut my hair but she had already shampooed my hair before I asked her to. (My head back, her working/talking standing over me). Stupid, I agree. Hopefully MY mask saved me if masks even work. We'll see.
Frankly, I still think we’ll have an antibody treatment before we have a vaccine.
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Perhaps ... they’re both far along in development. The odds are, IMHO, that before either are in wide use we will already be far along the path of achieving herd immunity. And that will be due to folks actually having been infected with most of the infected not even having noticed their infection.
I hope I did not sound like I thought you were “stupid” regarding the hair dresser. Just that we should all be free to make choices.
Some seem to think there is a way to justify forced lock downs, mandatory masks, etc as being a sorta twisted version of guaranteed freedom-from-infection. Analogous to snowflakes wanting a false freedom from offense or even disagreement.
True freedoms don’t require costs or actions from others, nor restrictions on their freedoms. So, if anything, these folks would need to argue for a new entitlement, though I personally would vote against it.
If we respect the freedom of association and respect private ownership, then most everybody should be able to find/stay in lower-risk / masked / whatever environments, for example, if that is their choice and if that is the free choice of enough others.
To Freedom, it does not matter one wit what the top-down tyrants like Dr F might THINK is best for all - and he’s wrong most of the time anyway. The private market will provide what people actually want - regardless what is theoretically ‘best’.
If we have decided that government should force everybody to do all possible to avoid all avoidable viruses - by law. Then we might as well start rounding up gay people right now.
Also, you probably know more than me already, but it might be worth asking about HCQ vs Chloroquine. The latter was more associated with side effects including related to the heart. And much of the scare info out there purposely is referring to that long outdated usage. HCQ is generally considered much safer. Dr Z, for one, claims virtually no bad side effects in well over 2000 patients.
A case of an STD. Probably a viral one.
But did all the young dudes carry the viruses???
Ohh had a drink or two or twelve, so I’ll try to elaborate on some of those finer points, at least the ones I can remember.
Firstly, the powers that be are trying to FORCE us to wear a mask whether we want to or not. I am not at all cool with this. This flu, which is WHAT IT IS, is gonna be a part of the regular flu cycle year after year. It’s here, it’s queer, and it’s gonna piss on everyone’s hush puppies at some point. Unless you’re gonna live in a magical bubble that keeps out every germ inexistence, you’re pretty much screwed.
The cowardly pansy thing was basically calling out those who bend over for mask mandates after “freedom isn’t free, it’s worth dying for...” and assorted rhetoric, and then come down on other people who don’t wear masks. As much as I may have it, and as much as I am ashamed of my generation,I regret to inform you that I am a millennial. We have a bad rap, perhaps deservedly so, but I still value my freedom enough to possibly die to covid rather than buckle to the demands of unelected shitheads who don’t know their ass from their forehead, and people think we’re all cowardly pansies and socialists. Contrary to popular opinions there are millennial men, which is NOT always an oxymoron, with a set of nuts.
These are the main point I remember without going back and reading stuff which I’m too sloshed and lazy to do right now.
I hope in my alcohol fuelled ramble I was able to clear some of that crap. Also, apologies for the way delayed response. I got a thousand rounds in the mail today for one of my AKs and went shooting at a barbecue with some of the boys
I hope they aren’t that stupid at Auburn.
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