Posted on 07/02/2020 7:54:35 AM PDT by SJackson
“- I will never apologize for refusing to defer to so-called “intellectuals”.”
I’ve known many high IQ people and I confess to being one but the few I have met who call THEMSELVES “intellectual” have all been fools. One woman I recall referred to herself as a member of the “intelligentsia”, she was an idiot.
‘We didn’t fight a war to preserve or to end slavery though and Lincoln is no hero of mine.’
so...substitute Jeff Davis; problem solved...
never apologize. It’s a sign of weakness..... Jethro Gibbs
“We fought a war with 620,000 dead to end slavery”.
No, we did not, the “Civil War” was not about slavery as the Lie-Berals insist on re-writing it.
If it were the emancipation proclamation would have been issued BEFORE it all began.
And it would have applied to ALL states, freeing ALL slaves the same day.
It trivializes the CW tragedy to reduce it to a single issue in clear disregard for the facts.
It is. :-)
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I get it. Thanks.
If Lincoln had announced emancipation as the objective at the outset of the war, it is doubtful that the North could have won. By the time he issued the Emancipation Proclamation, the war had been going on for the better part of two years. Anyway, Lincoln was a lawyer and knew he had no legal authority to free the slaves. That is why he was eager for slavery to be forbidden by a constitutional amendment in case doubt was cast on the status of the people freed by his proclamation.
well said
You assume that gun-owners are going to answer a survey as to whether or not they actually own guns honestly. They will not. And the number of first-time owners is skyrocketing (as any sane person would expect, given the lunatic ongoings around us).
More doubtful he'd have been nominated, much less elected. Besides, he had no interest in freeing slaves. Even the emancipation, the hope was that some southern states would, whole or in part, return. In rebellion slavery was illegal, should they return, like other northern slave states. That's why though issued in September 1862 it was effective 1/1/63 to give them time to return, which none did. Nor did it apply to lower Louisiana and Tennessee which, under Union occupation, were thought to be good candidates, nor to the counties which became West Virginia until 1863.
should they return, like other northern slave states it would again be legal.
“You assume that gun-owners are going to answer a survey as to whether or not they actually own guns honestly.”
Survey responses aren’t the reason I questioned the numbers. (Of course people don’t answer surveys honestly.) I assumed the figure was derived from reports by gun sellers, numbers of background reports, etc.
The underlying source of the stats is Rand. You can find as much detail as you want here, including details of methodology. But the sources they mention are around 50 surveys, gun suicides which they assume correlate to ownership, hunting licenses, magazine subscriptions. While it’s true that the large increases in sales the last few years could be purchases by existing owners, there’s all kinds of anecdotal sources indicating there’s a substantial uptick in new owners. Articles by first time owners, interviews with store owners and ranges and such.
https://www.rand.org/research/gun-policy/gun-ownership.html
https://www.rand.org/pubs/tools/TL354.html
It likely was, but any such statistics simply cannot account for the millions and millions of legal firearms already "out there" before such statistics ever became available. And no sane owner of such a firearm will ever allow that ownership to be known.
Not to nit-pick, but Lincoln did do other things for which he had no constitutional authority.
Like suspending habeas corpus, making political prisoners of some members of the Press, others that I cannot look up right at the moment as I have to get to work.
My real point is that ‘Slavery’ was NOT the main or only reason for the CW despite the modern false narrative.
If he had not been assassinated Lincoln did have a plan to repatriate willing ‘Blacks’ back to Africa.
I wonder how different our history might be today if that plan had been completed?
NOT saying it should have, just that there was such a plan and that it would have altered our history.
Have to wonder how many would have gone, only the first generation?
Tennessee was not covered by the Emancipation Proclamation. Andrew Johnson in 1864 as military governor declared the slaves in Tennessee free, but it isn't clear how legally binding that would have been.
West Virginia had slavery but adopted a plan for gradual emancipation, benefiting children of slave women born after a certain date, which would have meant the slaves already alive would have had to remain in servitude.
Lincoln, and the Republican party, wanted to limit slavery to the states were is already existed, so that it would eventually die out. Lincoln was and had been against slavery for a long time.
“If slavery is not wrong, nothing is wrong.”
Abraham Lincoln letter to A.G. Hodges 1864
Also Lincoln had no legal authority to free slaves in areas not in rebellion. However, the confiscation acts passed by congress in 1861 and 1862 gave him the legal authority to do so.
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