Posted on 06/26/2020 1:41:33 PM PDT by NobleFree
In June, the US government suspended H-1B and other work visas for the rest of 2020. Hundreds of thousands of foreigners will no longer be able to attain work in the US as a result.
This halt will deal a one-two punch to employers of computer-related occupations, which includes jobs such as software developers and computer systems analysts. First, people in this field receive the overwhelming majority of H-1B visas. Out of the nearly 400,000 H-1B petitions approved in fiscal year 2019, about two-thirds were in that line of work. Most went to software developers.
Second, computer-related workers are the one group for which the labor market will soon become tight again. When that happens, new foreign workers may be sorely missed. […]
Before Covid-19, the unemployment rate for these workers was the lowest in recorded history. In the 10 years prior to the pandemic, the number of computer-related workers soared by 62%, while the number in all other fields grew by just 13%.
And since February, when the pandemic started impacting the US economy, the rise in the unemployment rate for computer and mathematical occupations was smaller than for other occupation groups (see charts 1 and 2). While the unemployment rate for all workers and for the management and professional group reached the highest rates in recorded history, the increase for computer and mathematical workers was more modest, though still significant. […]
Beyond the short-term recruiting impact, reducing the number of foreign workers could have major implications on US innovation. A recent article concludes that immigrants are responsible for 30% of aggregate US innovation since 1976, partly due to their own innovation, but mostly due to the positive impact they are having on US natives’ innovation. Immigration grows the pie.
(Excerpt) Read more at forbes.com ...
Logic? We don’t need no stinkin’ logic!
They’ll promise one month, then when the deadline is a week awaytheyre not quite ready and need another two months, then they’ll give you a crap code that doesn’t meet requirements and say it’s your fault for not being clear in the business requirements and they need another 3 months to rewrite it when those 3 months are up they’ll give you a product that fails beta testing, but parts of it might barely work, they then need another 3 months to ensure the business requirements are understandable etc. worked on a 50 million dolllar project while with a Canadian bank that was promised in 6 months. 3 1/2 years later and 150 million the Indian firm finally had a workable system. The guys who saved 20 million and a year on the original project got a big bonus and promotion
Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner!
Anyone can code, especially coal miners. Just ask Joe Biden!
Maybe I could come out of retirement, if they made it worth my while.
Bitch, bitch, bitch. Whatever happened to “We’re all in this together.”?
At this point, they just need coders. A person who has experience in 3 languages is infinitely better than someone who is only good in 1 language. They are probably only good in 1 language because they refuse to learn another. I’ve used 15 in my career. Because God is merciful, RPG was not one of them.
BS.
My daughter has been looking for a tech job for months and is just about begging for work.
Hire her first, and then if there’s no one else, go abroad.
And yes, she does know how to dress, how to act, and to show up on time, or at all, on a daily basis for the job.
“we have plenty of college grads available. Their problem is they have work ethis. Zero.”
We also have less recent grads with fine wirk ethics who have been replaced by diploma-mill fictional-resume H-1Bs because they’re cheaper.
No argument....sorry about the typos.
“If you can code in one language, you can do it in any language.”
THIS!
Boo Hoo
Gad,
If you believe that tech workers are that hard to find, I’ve got a bridge to sell you. Because of the kungflu it’s 25% off !
It has happened to WAY too many Americans. H1B needs to happen under the old rules where you had to prove you could not find a qualified American.
That was one of the easiest rules that was worked around. Recruiters would interview three Americans and then say we couldn’t find an American to meet the specifications of the job. Therefore we need an H1B visa worker who has the qualifications. Or they would give a list of technologies and languages needed for the job and if that specific language or tech was not on the resume they would say “not qualified”. This was even when there was a more advanced tech that encompassed the lower or more basic tech. It was like you had to put down that you knew “spelling” even though you could write “sentences”. You think that is an oversimplified example, it is not. If it wasn’t on the resume it got tossed.
So if someone said they knew how to use SQL Developer and could write PL/SQL but never put down SQL by itself the resume got tossed. I know this because I went through this very issue with recruiters who were checking off lists and had no idea of the tech. Then you added in the computerized bots that read resumes and discarded resumes the same way.
So yeah, proving Americans were qualified was so easy to disqualify them without a second glance.
They are not hard to find ... if you recognise that many of the skills required are NOT taught in colleges, that not every job requires a degree (certifiations work in many cases) and that some skill sets, like networking, voice, and security) are very tough specilizations. A person who has spent 4 years learning to build web pages CANNOT be a drop in replacement for someone who knows networking or mainframes.
I blame much of this “lack of workers” on HR who has very little understanding of the tech skills and writes job descriptions so poorly, that anyone can qualify.
Unemployment is now in the double digits. Any employer who claims that he needs to foreign workers because there are no available Americans to do the job is lying through his teeth.
That's not just true of H1B tech jobs, it's equally true of most other sectors of the economy.
It isn’t just the salary that is an issue (some aren’t much lower than American salaries), but the number of work hours you can squeeze from Asian coolies. A lot of this is about rolling back the improvements in the workplace over the last century.
The same thing applies to migrant agricultural and construction workers from Mexico and Central America. Those who are here illegally of course get paid below minimum wage under the table, but the legal guest workers are paid about the same as Americans in many cases. However, they are willing to work longer hours under much worse conditions (sanitation and safety in Mexico and Central America aren't on par with US standards).
"Work Americans won't do" has become a self-fulfilling prophecy, because work conditions were created to fit the standards of Third World coolie labor.
That’s right.
A friend who worked as a consultant in tech described how the Indian employees were forced to work weekends and such; the American consultants didn’t because their firms billed by the hour. When an Indian was finally emancipated (his period of sponsorship/indentured servitude was over), he’d just be replaced by another one.
Yeah, not only that they'll have to pay something other than exploiting-H1B-Visa-wages too!
HIRE AMERICANS!!
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