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Despite pandemic, Trump administration urges end to ACA
The Associated Press ^ | June 26, 2020 | By RICARDO ALONSO-ZALDIVAR and MARK SHERMAN

Posted on 06/26/2020 3:54:24 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

WASHINGTON -- In the midst of the coronavirus pandemic, the Trump administration on Thursday urged the Supreme Court to overturn the Affordable Care Act.

The administration’s latest high court filing came the same day the government reported that close to half a million people who lost their health insurance amid the economic shutdown to slow the spread of COVID-19 have gotten coverage through HealthCare.gov.

The administration’s legal brief makes no mention of the virus.

Some 20 million Americans could lose their health coverage and protections for people with preexisting health conditions also would be put at risk if the court agrees with the administration in a case that won’t be heard before the fall.

In the case before the Supreme Court, Texas and other conservative-led states argue that the ACA was essentially rendered unconstitutional after Congress passed tax legislation in 2017 that eliminated the law’s unpopular fines for not having health insurance, but left in place its requirement that virtually all Americans have coverage.

After failing to repeal “Obamacare” in 2017 when Republicans fully controlled Congress, President Donald Trump has put the weight of his administration behind the legal challenge.

If the health insurance requirement is invalidated, “then it necessarily follows that the rest of the ACA must also fall,” Solicitor General Noel Francisco wrote Thursday.

(Excerpt) Read more at apnews.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: endmedicaree; endsocialsecurity2; journalism; media; nohandouts; obamacare; socialism; socialsecurity2
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1 posted on 06/26/2020 3:54:24 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

You just have to read the article and within a few sentences you know where it’s coming from :-)


2 posted on 06/26/2020 3:58:08 AM PDT by dp0622 (The very future of the Republic is at stake. dems will do ANYTHING to win.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Affordable Care Act —> Pandemic —> Economic Shutdown —> Loss of Health Insurance —> Affordable Care Act

Nice little self-perpetuating system.


3 posted on 06/26/2020 4:00:19 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

You forgot to put the “D” after the names of these two so-called writers of this propaganda piece. I wonder what the AP gets paid to be the DNC’s mouthpiece?


4 posted on 06/26/2020 4:01:44 AM PDT by Russ (I)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Democrats are looking to end Husseincare too, so the consensus is it’s a failure. Maybe a bipartisan repeal should be passed until other improvements can be made.


5 posted on 06/26/2020 4:01:45 AM PDT by MountainWalker
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Democrats are looking to end Husseincare too, so the consensus is it’s a failure.

Where? Medicare for all? That's Obamacare on steroids.

Maybe a bipartisan repeal should be passed until other improvements can be made.

LOL! Bipartisan? Really?

6 posted on 06/26/2020 4:03:58 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

It’s not going to happen. Roberts backed Obamacare from the first. Anyone who thinks he will overturn it at this juncture is dreaming. Remember how Roberts voted on DACA?


7 posted on 06/26/2020 4:14:26 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Can we buy health insurance across state lines ?


8 posted on 06/26/2020 4:14:55 AM PDT by airborne (I don't always scream at the TV but when I do it's hockey season!)
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To: DoodleDawg

That is what big companies want. It would save them billions and off the cost to tax payers


9 posted on 06/26/2020 4:19:19 AM PDT by redgolum (If this culture today is civilization, I will be the barbarian)
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To: airborne

“ Can we buy health insurance across state lines ?”
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If the GOP wants to really come up with a valid, inexpensive private care system this would be key, along with allowing pools or co-op’s of like businesses to be formed thereby getting low rates same as big corporations. The GOP fu€ked this up the last time they had both houses with petty in-fighting. Sadly, they may never get the chance again...


10 posted on 06/26/2020 4:35:58 AM PDT by snoringbear (,W,E.oGovernment is the Pimp,)
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To: DoodleDawg

It was their plan which they now admit is a failure, so we should hold them to it.


11 posted on 06/26/2020 4:56:50 AM PDT by MountainWalker
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To: MountainWalker
It was their plan which they now admit is a failure, so we should hold them to it.

And offer what in its place? Right now Biden is going to hit the 'they want to take away your healthcare and preexisting condition coverage and coverage for children' line and all Trump and the GOP have to respond with is 'ours will be much better'. You really thing that will be a winner?

12 posted on 06/26/2020 5:34:47 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

A friend was retiring and worried about health insurance.

He researched the “wonderful” ACA (spit) and was quoted $774 a month...because it includes everything for both men and women including mosquito bites.

More research revealed many insurance companies offer alternatives.
The one that suited him was through a Blue Cross affiliate and the cost...$254.

Is this something that was unusual? I don’t understand the problem.


13 posted on 06/26/2020 5:47:33 AM PDT by Maris Crane
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To: airborne

>>>Can we buy health insurance across state lines ?

You can in some states. The problem is, the out of state insurers don’t have very large networks. The volume of patients doesn’t make it worth the providers’ time in negotiating rates with multiple insurers in multiple states.


14 posted on 06/26/2020 5:51:43 AM PDT by oincobx ( Posting)
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I believe that allowing people to purchase insurance across state lines would help drop rates.

More competition tends to lead to better prices for consumers.


15 posted on 06/26/2020 6:10:49 AM PDT by airborne (I don't always scream at the TV but when I do it's hockey season!)
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To: DoodleDawg

And offer what in its place? Right now Biden is going to hit the ‘they want to take away your healthcare and preexisting condition coverage and coverage for children’ line and all Trump and the GOP have to respond with is ‘ours will be much better’. You really thing that will be a winner?

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I am worried about that situation...
Maybe if the Supreme Court does not strike down Obamacare now, the Trump campaign should not be too upset...


16 posted on 06/26/2020 7:07:58 AM PDT by L.A.Justice
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To: airborne

>>> I believe that allowing people to purchase insurance across state lines would help drop rates. More competition tends to lead to better prices for consumers.

Five states have passed laws related to selling insurance across state lines.
Yet despite the ability to do so, no insurer has offered such a product.

Three states—Georgia, Kentucky, and Maine—passed laws after ACA enactment.

In 2011, Georgia authorized the sale of non-group insurance policies approved for sale in other states. No insurer has offered a policy under Georgia’s law.

Also in 2011, Maine passed a law that that would allow, beginning in 2014, insurers already licensed in the state to also offer plans approved for sale in Connecticut, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, and Rhode Island. As in Georgia, no insurer has offered a policy under the law.

Kentucky took a smaller step in 2012, when it passed a law permitting the state to “explore the feasibility” of creating an interstate compact with contiguous states and allowing the purchase of health plans in participating states.

Two states—Rhode Island and Wyoming—passed laws prior to ACA enactment.
Rhode Island’s 2008 law authorized the creation of a regional health insurance compact to allow the sale of policies issued in New England states.

Wyoming’s 2010 law allows the sale of health plans by out-of-state insurers and expresses the intent to pursue a multi-state consortium to remove duplicative regulations.

Neither of these pre-ACA laws has led to cross-state insurance sales.


17 posted on 06/26/2020 7:38:40 AM PDT by oincobx ( Posting)
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To: DoodleDawg

If they think their plan achieves all of those things, why do they want a new plan? Everyone is in agreement that it’s a failure, so it should first be scrapped through repeal and then start the debate over. Why are you making their arguments for them?


18 posted on 06/26/2020 9:52:20 AM PDT by MountainWalker
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To: MountainWalker
Everyone is in agreement that it’s a failure, so it should first be scrapped through repeal and then start the debate over.

I don't know about 'everyone' but it may be academic if the Supreme Court strikes down Obamacare entirely. Fortunately it won't be done in this term. Next year should prove interesting but at least it'll be after the presidential election.

Why are you making their arguments for them?

They don't need me. Biden already started on the line that the Democrats will use from now to the election - Trump wants to take away your healthcare/pre-existing condition coverage/coverage for your adult kids/etc.

19 posted on 06/26/2020 10:10:04 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

Bedwetting over what the Democrats will say is generally a counterproductive exercise, but if the GOP can’t make the case that the government isn’t the guarantor of healthcare, then the argument is already lost and Medicare for all will be here soon.


20 posted on 06/26/2020 12:27:25 PM PDT by MountainWalker
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