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A Sad Day For Democracy: Tomorrow Could Be The End Of Hong Kong As We Know It
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| 05/21/2020
| John Sexton
Posted on 05/21/2020 8:16:46 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
When the British handed over Hong Kong to China in 1997, China promised to respect its independence for the next 50 years. The shorthand for that plan was one country, two systems. But the two systems part of the plan could effectively come to an end tomorrow. China has tried and failed in the past to exert more control over Hong Kong, but this time it seems prepared to simply bypass Hong Kongs government entirely and pass the new law via the mainlands one party system:
Security rules proposed by the Hong Kong government in 2003 would have empowered the authorities to close seditious newspapers and conduct searches without warrants. That proposal was abandoned after it triggered large protests.
This time, China is effectively circumventing the Hong Kong government, undercutting the relative autonomy granted to the territory. Instead, it is going through Chinas rubber stamp legislature, the National Peoples Congress, which holds its annual session starting Friday.
You may recall that the months of protests in Hong Kong were prompted by an attempt to introduce a new law which might have made it possible for China to extradite people to the mainland for trial. That proposal was eventually withdrawn because of the protests. This time China is simply holding the vote in a place where protests wont matter. And China is using the authoritarians favorite gimmick, claiming opposition to the Chinese Communist Party in Hong Kong isnt home-grown but based on collusion with external forces.
In a clear effort to head off international concerns, Chinas Foreign Ministry sent a letter on Thursday night to ambassadors posted to Beijing, urging them to support the legislation and laying out the governments position.
The opposition in Hong Kong have long colluded with external forces to carry out acts of secession, subversion, infiltration and destruction against the Chinese mainland, the letter stated.
The BBC has a rundown of some the reactions to the move from pro-democracy forces in Hong Kong:
A number of pro-democracy figures in Hong Kong, including Democratic Party leader Wu Chi-wai, said the announcement was the death of one country, two systems.
Civic Party lawmaker Dennis Kwok said if this move takes place, one country, two systems will be officially erased. This is the end of Hong Kong.
His colleague Tanya Chan added that this was the saddest day in Hong Kong history.
The Wall Street Journal has more including an important point about the precedent being set here:
I know that everyone is scared and worried tonight, Joshua Wong, one of the citys best-known activists, wrote in a Facebook post. After this law is passed: What will happen to Hong Kong? How many people will be prosecuted? How many organizations will be banned?
I will continue to do what I believe to be correct, said Martin Lee, the 81-year-old founding chairman of the citys Democratic Party, who is known as the Father of Democracy in the city
I dont know which is worse: the law itself, or the process of allowing the standing committee to pass the law for Hong Kong, he said, referring to Beijings plan to use its highest political body to introduce laws for Hong Kong and override the citys lawmakers. Its a dangerous precedent set at a critical stage, and in the future they can repeat the same thing again and again.
Thats a key point. It almost doesnt matter how limited the new law passed Friday is. Once China established this precedent, i.e. that it can simply pass laws for Hong Kong via its one-party legislature in the mainland, Xi Jinping can go back and do this again and again for any reason at any time. This would make the claim of two systems little more than a mirage.
Here in the U.S., a bipartisan group of Senators are working on legislation which would sanction Chinese individuals involved in the attempted crackdown:
Sen. Chris Van Hollen (D., Md.) and Sen. Pat Toomey (R., Pa.) said they had been working on the bill, which aims to defend human rights in Hong Kong and pressure China to preserve the territorys special status. They said Thursdays developments made the legislation more urgent, and they will press Senate leaders to take up the matter quickly
We would impose penalties on individuals who are complicit in Chinas illegal crackdown in Hong Kong, Mr. Van Hollen said. He called the move by Beijing a gross violation of Chinas agreement with the U.K. to preserve more freedom and autonomy in the territory.
Mr. Toomey called the move by China very, very deeply disturbing.
Senator Lindsey Graham said every effort should be made to prevent China from destroying Hong Kong.
Sen. Ted Cruz also said it was time to reassess U.S. policy toward China.
The Chinese Communist Party is fast moving to end what is left of Hong Kongs autonomy, stripping away essential freedoms from Hong Kongs people. This is unacceptable and will require a reevaluation of U.S. policy if it is not immediately reversed. As Ive long said, Hong Kong is the new Berlin, and now the U.S. must stand strong with our allies and hold the line against the spread of communism.
Senators Rubio, Risch, and Gardner also released a joint statement:
Reports that the CCP will introduce legislation implementing Article 23 of the Hong Kong Basic Law at this weeks National Peoples Congress indicate Beijing will begin an unprecedented assault against Hong Kongs autonomy. The Basic Law states clearly that the authority to advance Article 23 legislation rests with the executive and legislative branches of the Hong Kong government, and not with Beijing. The Chinese government is once again breaking its promises to the people of Hong Kong and the international community.
This comes on the heels of a series of other serious blows to Hong Kongs self-rule in recent weeks, including the advocacy of a law criminalizing disrespect of the national anthem of the Peoples Republic of China and pressure on Hong Kongs legislature that led to the sidelining of pro-democracy legislators.
The United States will stand resolute in its support of the Hong Kong people. These developments are of grave concern to the United States, and could lead to a significant reassessment on U.S. policy towards Hong Kong.
Nikki Haley highlighted the issue.
And again, there is bipartisan consensus on this. Even Nancy Pelosi is expressing alarm.
Last week we had the beginning of what looked like a new trade war between the U.S. and China. Now we have something potentially even worse. There are more than 7 million people living in Hong Kong many of whom have expressed their admiration for freedom and the United States in particular. Over the next few hours, their freedom could effectively be wiped out by the worlds largest communist authoritarian state.
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To: Jane Long
> Has UK even issued a statement on this ChiCom takeover of HK? <
Others probably know more about this than I do, but from what Ive read the 1997 transfer of sovereignty went rather smoothly.
I dont know how the UK feels about this current crisis. But part of me wants to say that its none of their business. Yes, the Chinese communists are monsters. And yes, the ChiComs agreed to a 50-year special relationship deal.
But Hong Kong is a Chinese city. It just is. The British only had power there for awhile because they bullied their way in.
That does NOT mean that the ChiComs should not be criticized. In fact, they should be criticized all day long - for their human rights abuses, for their imperial behavior, and for unleashing the Wuhan virus in the world.
All Im saying is that the UK has no special right to criticize China over Hong Kong. I hope that makes some sense.
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posted on
05/21/2020 10:05:26 PM PDT
by
Leaning Right
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To: DesertRhino
I see. You were referring to everyone emigrating. Evac brought something different to mind. But I get your point.
I think they will have a hard time coming.
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posted on
05/21/2020 10:07:55 PM PDT
by
citizen
(Women are from Venus and Men are from Mars. All the other genders you make up are from Uranus.)
To: SeekAndFind
43
posted on
05/21/2020 10:21:08 PM PDT
by
mrsmith
(Dumb sluts (M / F) : Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
To: dfwgator
// Gracefully surrender the things of youth: birds, clean air, tuna, Taiwan.
-Deteriorata //
Good one!
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posted on
05/21/2020 10:39:00 PM PDT
by
cyn
To: dfwgator
National Lampoon Radio Dinner
I still have that vinyl around here somewhere.
45
posted on
05/21/2020 10:55:53 PM PDT
by
Lurkinanloomin
(Natural Born Citizens Are Born Here of Citizen Parents_Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
To: ducttape45; Tai_Chung; Leaning Right
As Tai_Chung pointed out.
Though to go back, to the 1800s - the UK as an opium dealer wanted to sell to opium addicts in China. The Chinese govt said no, so the UK went to war. The UK won and got HK island in a 99 year lease. This is kind of like if the drug cartels go to war with the US and win and then force the USA to allow them to import drugs AND take Florida in a 99 year lease...
The assumption was that in 1997 China would still be weak. However WWI and II came and the situation changed.
A note - during most of the 99 years, the UK didn’t allow any semblance of democracy in HK - it was only the last governor, in the last few years who put in the democracy setup.
Under Thatcher the UK tried to negotiate an extension to the lease but the Chinese government said No.
BTW, the 99 year lease was over the “New Territories” - the mainland part of HK, while the island itself was occupied by the UK directly, no lease.
But without the New Territories, HK isn’t viable - no fresh water etc.
And the UK realized that giving it to Taiwan or not giving it to China was not viable - a legacy of colonialism surrounded by China? Not possible. So they gave it up.
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posted on
05/21/2020 11:01:06 PM PDT
by
Cronos
(Re-elect President Trump 2020!)
To: ducttape45; Tai_Chung; Leaning Right
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posted on
05/21/2020 11:02:18 PM PDT
by
Cronos
(Re-elect President Trump 2020!)
To: SeekAndFind
HK stock market dropping like a stone.
Lots of Chinese elites losing their butts.
...but that’s better than losing power.
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posted on
05/21/2020 11:05:01 PM PDT
by
mrsmith
(Dumb sluts (M / F) : Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
To: rockinqsranch
Yep, I worry for Taiwan as it will go the same way.This will go hot when they take Taiwan.
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posted on
05/21/2020 11:05:21 PM PDT
by
HANG THE EXPENSE
(Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
To: Cronos
> the UK as an opium dealer wanted to sell to opium addicts in China. The Chinese govt said no, so the UK went to war. <
Right. Good post yours. A friend of mine - a history teacher - once remarked that the British upper class were the most amoral people in the world. I didnt argue with him.
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posted on
05/21/2020 11:05:37 PM PDT
by
Leaning Right
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To: SeekAndFind
Thus is abrogation of the treaty.
Hong Kong is therefore independent.
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posted on
05/21/2020 11:23:25 PM PDT
by
ifinnegan
(Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
To: ducttape45
“Can anyone explain why Hong Kong was given to the Chinese in the first place?”
Racism.
For once that’s the actual reason.
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posted on
05/21/2020 11:24:54 PM PDT
by
ifinnegan
(Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
To: citizen
“How long before Dems call for unlimited refugee status for all Hong Kong residents?”
They’re not anti-American Muslims, so, no.
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posted on
05/21/2020 11:25:54 PM PDT
by
ifinnegan
(Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
To: Leaning Right
“Tai_Chung noted, the 99-year lease between the UK and China ended in 1997.”
Hong Kong was ceded in perpetuity, as was Kowloon.
That was not the reason Hong Hong was turned over.
Stop saying ignorant things.
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posted on
05/21/2020 11:29:58 PM PDT
by
ifinnegan
(Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
To: SeekAndFind
First, not our problem. Second, Hong Kong was leased to the UK, the lease ended. Third, when the UK left, they left the people and did not give them access to the UK or citizenship. They remained Chinese citizens of Hong Kong. None of this involved the US, they are not our citizens, not our problem. Hong Kong and the Chinese there were part of China, leased, and now returned. Maybe it sucks for them, but not our problem. Maybe they can help fix China now that they have returned.
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posted on
05/21/2020 11:33:26 PM PDT
by
Reno89519
(Buy American, Hire American! End All Worker Visa Programs. Replace Visa Workers w/ American Workers)
To: Leaning Right
In the 1700s, 1800s and early 1900s definitely. Now, I don’t know.
The Chinese takeover of HK is actually a loss as this sends a strong message to Taiwan that one country two systems will not work.
This is typical Xi, he is moving too fast. The other post Deng leader were content to grow slowly and not ruffle feathers. The Sun Tzu method. Xi is impatient and due to this will lose.
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posted on
05/21/2020 11:38:12 PM PDT
by
Cronos
(Re-elect President Trump 2020!)
To: ifinnegan
> Stop saying ignorant things. <
Why in the world must you resort to a personal insult? I am not an expert on Hong Kong. But I am an expert on Relativity. Ive taught college courses on the subject. Sometimes folks will say something here on that subject that I feel is wrong. I offer a correction. But I do not insult them. I am not ten years old on a school playground.
Anyway, my post re Hong Kong was an overview. And that whole perpetuity thing meant absolutely nothing. The UK could hold Hong Kong proper only as long as it had the strength to do so.
As I noted in an earlier post, if the UK had insisted on enforcing the perpetuity clause, a single Chinese division could have overrun the place in a day.
If you want to continue this discussion civilly, fine. Perhaps you could offer insights that I would be interested in. But if you want to just trade insults, Im not interested in that at all.
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posted on
05/21/2020 11:48:22 PM PDT
by
Leaning Right
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To: SeekAndFind
Sen. Von Hollen and Toomey are two of the weakest senators in Congress. Von Hollen (D-MD) is a typical mouthy quish and Toomey (R-Pa) is just as sleazy/quishy.
Both know that any sanctions against Red Chinese individuals are useless, like trying to stop a hurricane with a fart.
Good way to weasel around confronting Red China head-on about their violations of human rights, political agreements, territorial provocations/aggression, and war-posturing against smaller, non-nuclear armed nations.
In other words, these two are cowardly senatorial turds. They make a lot of stink but do nothing other than make a little noise and then dry up like all dog crap does.
To: Leaning Right
Sorry but it is very tiresome and irksome to hear common misinformation repeated.
Especially when it serves only to support the Chinese Communists.
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posted on
05/22/2020 12:02:17 AM PDT
by
ifinnegan
(Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
To: mrsmith
#39. Re “why” is China “killing the goose that lays the golden eggs. Red China is “power hungry” and goose eggs, golden or otherwise, are “power food”.
They’ve already seized Tibet, Macao and soon, Hong Kong, plus some of the Tai U Tao/Paracel Islands, and sea lanes in the South China Seas. They see themselves as “on a roll” (no, not an egg roll), and with the Democrats in the US Congress viewed as their “secret buddies”, what has Peking got to lose by going on the offensive.
They figured Trump would be gone by now but they can wait until the next Democrat “impeachment” ploy to aid them in weakening the president’s resistance to their aggression.
Why not? The Dems sold out three countries to Communism, genocide and slavery in Southeast Asia. Selling out Hong Kong, then Taiwan will be “routine” for them if they win the Senate and/or White House.
Red China “can wait”. They are very patient and know that they have a big “Fifth Column” in the Democrats in America.
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