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Firm Can Cut Into Titanic to Recover Telegraph, Judge Says
NY Times ^ | 05-20-2020 | Neil Vigdor and Sandra E. Garcia

Posted on 05/20/2020 8:13:02 AM PDT by NRx

An underwater salvage company was granted approval this week to cut into the wreckage of the Titanic to try to recover a Marconi telegraph, rekindling a complex debate over access to the ship and maritime law.

The company, R.M.S. Titanic, persuaded a federal judge on Monday to allow it to conduct a salvage operation this summer in the wreckage of the ship, which sank during its maiden voyage across the Atlantic in 1912 after hitting an iceberg. More than 1,500 of the ship’s passengers died, and about 700 survived.

The ruling, by Judge Rebecca Beach Smith of the U.S. District Court in Norfolk, Va., made changes to a 2000 court order that prohibited the company from cutting into the ship’s hull to search for diamonds.

The company sought to loosen the restrictions so it could recover the Titanic’s telegraph machine, which it contends could be lost forever because of the degradation of the ship. The radio transmitter could unlock some of the secrets about a missed warning message and distress calls sent from the ship, said the company, which obtained the salvage rights to the wreckage in the 1980s. The site is about 370 miles off the coast of Newfoundland.

“The Marconi device has significant historical, educational, scientific and cultural value as the device used to make distress calls while the Titanic was sinking,” Judge Smith wrote in her ruling. The company will be permitted to “minimally to cut into the wreck” so it can reach the telegraph room, Judge Smith wrote.

David Concannon, a lawyer for R.M.S. Titanic, said in an interview on Tuesday that the company would try to avoid cutting into the ship and that the ship’s telegraph room could be reached through a skylight that was already open.

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To: Trueblackman

Tell it to King Tut. Now THAT was a grave.


21 posted on 05/20/2020 8:24:31 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: Jeff Chandler

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22 posted on 05/20/2020 8:26:05 AM PDT by Vaduz (women and children to be impacIQ of chimpsted the most.)
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To: NRx

I thought Rose threw the telegraph into the water at the end of the movie?


23 posted on 05/20/2020 8:26:34 AM PDT by Rebelbase (Democrat politicians prefer death)
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To: NRx

How the hell does a US court have jurisdiction?

International waters.
British ship


24 posted on 05/20/2020 8:26:35 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: bert

Yes, bert, you are correct.


25 posted on 05/20/2020 8:26:46 AM PDT by golux (In Memory of Kenny Bunk)
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To: bert

Those would have to be some really valuable rocks for the labor and expense.


26 posted on 05/20/2020 8:27:40 AM PDT by wally_bert (Transmission tone, Selma.)
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To: NRx
The radio transmitter could unlock some of the secrets about a missed warning message and distress calls sent from the ship, said the company, which obtained the salvage rights to the wreckage in the 1980s.

I'd think 108 years of soaking in salt water would do a lot more damage than Hillary did to her hard drives with BleachBit and a hammer.

That said, what are salvage rights that don't allow salvage?

27 posted on 05/20/2020 8:28:25 AM PDT by Sooth2222 ("The natives are growing restless")
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To: bert

What? It’s not to recover Cal Hockey’s safe?


28 posted on 05/20/2020 8:28:41 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Prayers up for Rush Limbaugh...)
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To: NRx

“ The radio transmitter could unlock some of the secrets about a missed warning message and distress calls ”

It’s probably lost power by now


29 posted on 05/20/2020 8:28:53 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Leave me alone, I have no incriminating evidence on the Clintons)
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To: headstamp 2

I busted out laughing on that one. LOL!


30 posted on 05/20/2020 8:29:03 AM PDT by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: NRx

31 posted on 05/20/2020 8:29:11 AM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (When your business model depends on slave labor, you're always going to need more slaves)
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To: ARW

I don’t get how a retrieving primitive radio transmitter sitting in a ship which sunk 110 years ago, is 12,500 below the surface and 400 miles from the closest land is really going to tell them anything.


32 posted on 05/20/2020 8:30:41 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer)
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To: Trueblackman

Good luck finding any remains in the Telegraph room.


33 posted on 05/20/2020 8:31:18 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: bert

I think you are spot on. They should examine the records of the Marconi Company and the records of the board of inquiry instead.


34 posted on 05/20/2020 8:31:43 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: NRx

Telegram for Mongo! Telegram for Mongo!


35 posted on 05/20/2020 8:31:47 AM PDT by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: NRx
Owning the salvage rights (or not), diamonds (or not), telegraph (or not)... My gut feel is that she is a dead ship and is the grave of over 1500 people and ought to be left alone.

I can't really explain it or reconcile it with other situations. Twin Towers after 9/11? Yes, let's clear and rebuild - while being respectful of the thousands who perished there. Raise the battlewagons after Pearl Harbor? By all means, let's get them back in action...

36 posted on 05/20/2020 8:31:56 AM PDT by ThunderSleeps
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Clearly they are after something else. As I recall the safe with diamonds wasn’t near the radio room. Wonder what they want to “discover”.


37 posted on 05/20/2020 8:32:55 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: NRx

How can a court in Virginia have any jurisdiction over this?


38 posted on 05/20/2020 8:33:30 AM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: HereInTheHeartland

Hand cranked generator?


39 posted on 05/20/2020 8:33:48 AM PDT by wally_bert (Transmission tone, Selma.)
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To: Redcitizen

“It’s a wreck. A little more damage won’t hurt.”

It’s a grave site.

That’s like saying let’s go cut a hole into the side of the USS Arizona, USS Thresher, or USS Scorpion to retrieve some artifact or other.


40 posted on 05/20/2020 8:33:54 AM PDT by 2CAVTrooper (Political Science degrees, so easy Obama has one.)
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