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Firm Can Cut Into Titanic to Recover Telegraph, Judge Says
NY Times ^ | 05-20-2020 | Neil Vigdor and Sandra E. Garcia

Posted on 05/20/2020 8:13:02 AM PDT by NRx

An underwater salvage company was granted approval this week to cut into the wreckage of the Titanic to try to recover a Marconi telegraph, rekindling a complex debate over access to the ship and maritime law.

The company, R.M.S. Titanic, persuaded a federal judge on Monday to allow it to conduct a salvage operation this summer in the wreckage of the ship, which sank during its maiden voyage across the Atlantic in 1912 after hitting an iceberg. More than 1,500 of the ship’s passengers died, and about 700 survived.

The ruling, by Judge Rebecca Beach Smith of the U.S. District Court in Norfolk, Va., made changes to a 2000 court order that prohibited the company from cutting into the ship’s hull to search for diamonds.

The company sought to loosen the restrictions so it could recover the Titanic’s telegraph machine, which it contends could be lost forever because of the degradation of the ship. The radio transmitter could unlock some of the secrets about a missed warning message and distress calls sent from the ship, said the company, which obtained the salvage rights to the wreckage in the 1980s. The site is about 370 miles off the coast of Newfoundland.

“The Marconi device has significant historical, educational, scientific and cultural value as the device used to make distress calls while the Titanic was sinking,” Judge Smith wrote in her ruling. The company will be permitted to “minimally to cut into the wreck” so it can reach the telegraph room, Judge Smith wrote.

David Concannon, a lawyer for R.M.S. Titanic, said in an interview on Tuesday that the company would try to avoid cutting into the ship and that the ship’s telegraph room could be reached through a skylight that was already open.

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1 posted on 05/20/2020 8:13:02 AM PDT by NRx
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To: NRx

It’s a wreck. A little more damage won’t hurt.


2 posted on 05/20/2020 8:16:34 AM PDT by Redcitizen (Nobody needs a 10 round magazine. You need a 30 round magazine.)
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To: NRx

Sounds like an expensive operation.


3 posted on 05/20/2020 8:16:36 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire. Or both.)
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To: NRx

Why should a United States court have jurisdiction of a shipwreck in international waters?


4 posted on 05/20/2020 8:17:12 AM PDT by garyb (What if you can't trust the voice in your head?)
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To: NRx

If they own the salvage rights why do they need a court to say they can salvage anything?


5 posted on 05/20/2020 8:17:51 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: NRx

You wonder how a ship which sunk 110 years ago, is 12,500 below the surface and 400 miles from the closest land is subject to any court’s jurisdiction.


6 posted on 05/20/2020 8:18:03 AM PDT by ARW
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To: NRx

As a Sailor, I am totally opposed to this kind of grave robbing! Sunken Ships with a death counts are graves and it’s totally disrespectful to the victims.


7 posted on 05/20/2020 8:18:21 AM PDT by Trueblackman (Impeachment? Game on B*tches time add my engine to the Trump Train.)
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To: NRx

The mission is to locate diamonds. The telegraph hoax is cover


8 posted on 05/20/2020 8:18:23 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12) Progressives are existential American enemies)
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To: Redcitizen

It’s a grave.
It should be left alone.


9 posted on 05/20/2020 8:18:37 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Baseball players, gangsters and musicians are remembered. But journalists are forgotten.)
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To: Redcitizen

I don’t think the passengers would mind.


10 posted on 05/20/2020 8:18:55 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: NRx

[[[The radio transmitter could unlock some of the secrets about a missed warning message and distress calls sent from the ship, said the company]]]

Yes, get the cassette tape out of it.


11 posted on 05/20/2020 8:19:04 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (There's a stairway to heaven, but there's also a highway to hell.)
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To: bert

[[[The mission is to locate diamonds. The telegraph hoax is cover]]]

You win the thread.


12 posted on 05/20/2020 8:20:29 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (There's a stairway to heaven, but there's also a highway to hell.)
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To: NRx

Gee, what could possibly go wrong?


13 posted on 05/20/2020 8:21:31 AM PDT by exnavy (american by birth and choice, I love this country!)
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To: Redcitizen

It’s also a grave.

How did this judge get sole self-appointed jurisdiction over a wreck in international waters?


14 posted on 05/20/2020 8:22:15 AM PDT by null and void (By the pricking of my lungs, Something wicked this way comes ...)
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David Concannon, a lawyer for R.M.S. Titanic

How old is he?

They should have saved the money they wasted on lawyers and spent it on better iceberg spotters.

15 posted on 05/20/2020 8:22:42 AM PDT by x
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To: NRx

16 posted on 05/20/2020 8:22:48 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (BLACK LIVES MAGA)
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A streaming log of the Titanic's wireless - relive the wireless room's experience

A shorter, more polished and entertaining version

17 posted on 05/20/2020 8:22:52 AM PDT by C210N
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To: NRx

I’m waiting for the media to say that Trump is involved somehow.


18 posted on 05/20/2020 8:23:22 AM PDT by euram
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To: garyb

The short answer is that it’s insanely complicated. It’s all bound up in questions of maritime law, specifically salvage law, who owns the wreck, what rights the insurers had and who those rights passed to (the ship was British built and registered but the White Star Line was owned by an American shipping conglomerate) and then there are laws passed by various countries limiting what could be removed from the wreck site. And so on...


19 posted on 05/20/2020 8:23:38 AM PDT by NRx (A man of honor passes his father's civilization to his son without surrendering it to strangers.)
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To: bert

Why not?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glomar_Explorer


20 posted on 05/20/2020 8:23:49 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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