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Firm Can Cut Into Titanic to Recover Telegraph, Judge Says
NY Times ^ | 05-20-2020 | Neil Vigdor and Sandra E. Garcia

Posted on 05/20/2020 8:13:02 AM PDT by NRx

An underwater salvage company was granted approval this week to cut into the wreckage of the Titanic to try to recover a Marconi telegraph, rekindling a complex debate over access to the ship and maritime law.

The company, R.M.S. Titanic, persuaded a federal judge on Monday to allow it to conduct a salvage operation this summer in the wreckage of the ship, which sank during its maiden voyage across the Atlantic in 1912 after hitting an iceberg. More than 1,500 of the ship’s passengers died, and about 700 survived.

The ruling, by Judge Rebecca Beach Smith of the U.S. District Court in Norfolk, Va., made changes to a 2000 court order that prohibited the company from cutting into the ship’s hull to search for diamonds.

The company sought to loosen the restrictions so it could recover the Titanic’s telegraph machine, which it contends could be lost forever because of the degradation of the ship. The radio transmitter could unlock some of the secrets about a missed warning message and distress calls sent from the ship, said the company, which obtained the salvage rights to the wreckage in the 1980s. The site is about 370 miles off the coast of Newfoundland.

“The Marconi device has significant historical, educational, scientific and cultural value as the device used to make distress calls while the Titanic was sinking,” Judge Smith wrote in her ruling. The company will be permitted to “minimally to cut into the wreck” so it can reach the telegraph room, Judge Smith wrote.

David Concannon, a lawyer for R.M.S. Titanic, said in an interview on Tuesday that the company would try to avoid cutting into the ship and that the ship’s telegraph room could be reached through a skylight that was already open.

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To: Trueblackman

They search for pharaohs last places and others graves, artifacts, etc. , why not salvage these old ships?


201 posted on 05/20/2020 4:27:10 PM PDT by Captain Peter Blood (https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/3804407/posts?q=1&;page=61)
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To: xrmusn

Hahaha. I was never that good, but my dad was. He was a merchant marine radioman before they went digital.


202 posted on 05/20/2020 4:30:06 PM PDT by Salvavida
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To: Reily

“So this a salvage operation to get Titanic collectables to sell?”

Round One.


203 posted on 05/20/2020 4:30:47 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: Salvavida

” He was a merchant marine radioman before they went digital.”

Morse code is digital.


204 posted on 05/20/2020 4:32:39 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: bert

Like Glomar Explorer and manganese nodules.


205 posted on 05/20/2020 4:47:21 PM PDT by Portcall24
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To: Salvavida

I was US Navy...used to get in ‘trouble’ with the MMs because their ‘title/ticket’ was Amateur Radio Op...

I ‘claimed’ if they were amateurs, we(I) must have been a ‘professional’...


206 posted on 05/20/2020 5:07:39 PM PDT by xrmusn (6/98"HRC is the Grandmother that lures Hansel & Gretel to the pot")
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To: roadcat

I have a 2 inch quadraplex tape in storage.

A whole tape library was being tossed and I grabbed one just to have.

I am fairly sure I can still set up an Ampex AVR2 or 6 to play it back.


207 posted on 05/20/2020 5:11:22 PM PDT by wally_bert (Transmission tone, Selma.)
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To: fso301; Buckeye McFrog

I don’t get how a retrieving primitive radio transmitter sitting in a ship which sunk 110 years ago, is 12,500 below the surface and 400 miles from the closest land is really going to tell them anything.
Yes but such contrived mystery makes for a better television documentary.

= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =

Yes, think Geraldo Rivera and his ‘Capone Vault’

AND all of todays Pols/TV celebs who have a breaking story coming out in a FEW DAYS...


208 posted on 05/20/2020 5:12:06 PM PDT by xrmusn (6/98"HRC is the Grandmother that lures Hansel & Gretel to the pot")
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To: xrmusn; Buckeye McFrog
I don’t get how a retrieving primitive radio transmitter sitting in a ship which sunk 110 years ago, is 12,500 below the surface and 400 miles from the closest land is really going to tell them anything.

????

209 posted on 05/20/2020 5:33:32 PM PDT by fso301
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To: TexasGator

You are correct....I should have said until the industry moved from telegraph technology.


210 posted on 05/20/2020 5:53:28 PM PDT by Salvavida
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To: bobby.223

SEE #187 - Copy code and paste at site. - NSFW - you’ve been warned. Not really bad. ;-)


211 posted on 05/20/2020 6:01:44 PM PDT by Tunehead54 (Nothing funny here ;-)
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To: fso301; Buckeye McFrog
Did you not notice the line from BMcF?

It makes for better TV Documentary.

I responded with citing Geraldo Riveras farce inre Al Capones vault which he pimped for about 6 months and when he opened it, it was empty.

The next cite is all the clowns with 'breaking news'- not tomorrow but in two or three weeks, seemingly hoping one would forget the 'promise'.

212 posted on 05/20/2020 6:42:41 PM PDT by xrmusn (6/98"HRC is the Grandmother that lures Hansel & Gretel to the pot")
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To: NRx

Other than serving as a historic trophy what purpose would there be to recovering this object? This is a mass grave that should not be disturbed.


213 posted on 05/20/2020 7:55:48 PM PDT by The Great RJ ("Socialists are happy until they run out of other people's money." Margaret Thatcher)
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To: TexasGator
It’s called capitalism.

So is seeking lower labor costs by shutting down American jobs in favor of cheap Asian labor. That don’t make it right.

214 posted on 05/20/2020 10:19:07 PM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("The rat always knows when he's in with weasels."--Tom Waits)
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To: TexasGator

Obviously you don’t know. Google John Trump.


215 posted on 05/21/2020 12:50:10 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (This tagline is an advertisement-free zone. Is yours?)
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To: Reily

Rare, but definitely not one of a kind.


216 posted on 05/21/2020 12:53:00 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (This tagline is an advertisement-free zone. Is yours?)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep

I fail to see you say what is wrong.


217 posted on 05/21/2020 9:20:55 AM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: mowowie

Their cabin might have been right at the split...


218 posted on 05/21/2020 11:13:51 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Fresh Wind; TexasGator
It'd all be a vastly different story if they'd prove it's they Olympic they're actually trying to salvage.

219 posted on 05/22/2020 8:16:43 AM PDT by rx (Truth will out!)
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To: rx

Olympic was retired and salvaged for scrap.


220 posted on 05/22/2020 9:51:15 AM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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