Posted on 05/18/2020 9:11:55 AM PDT by Coronal
Attorney General Bill Barr on Monday said he does not expect U.S. Attorney John Durham’s review into the origins of the Russia probe will lead to a “criminal investigation” of either former President Barack Obama or former Vice President Joe Biden -- while noting that their concern of “potential criminality” in the conduct of that probe is “focused on others.”
Barr, during a press conference on Monday, spoke at length about Durham investigation. He said he has a “general idea” of how the investigation is going, and confirmed that “some aspects are being investigated as potential crimes.”
Barr did say, however, that “not every abuse of power, no matter how outrageous, is necessarily a federal crime.”
“As for President Obama and Vice President Biden, whatever their level of involvement based on what I know, I don’t expect Durham’s work will lead to a criminal investigation of either man,” Barr said. “Our concern of potential criminality is focused on others.”
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I believe there has never been a criminal pursuit of an ex-president. Nixon might have been the first, so much was he hated by democrats, but Ford’s pardon avoided that eventuality. I think for good reason. We do not want to initiate a scorched earth policy against former office holders. OTOH, former office holders, as in former presidents, should adhere to the tradition of sitting down and shutting up.
I have a feeling this is more of the “we won’t prosecute your guy and you won’t prosecute ours” ruling class bargain.
All you need to know folks. Members of “The Club” protecting each other as usual.
Move along.
That is so cool!!
Let’s say you are Comey, McCabe, STrzok, Lisa....Brennan, Clapper...and on and on...
And let’s say that if lower level people are in trouble, I don’t know about anyone else, but I would be FURIOUS, if I knew the orders were given.
So, Let’s see how many are in trouble and let’s see if they may want to explain their criminal actions.
I LOVE IT.
Scumbags snitch and these guys are scum.
“”... based on what I know, I don’t expect Durham’s work will lead to a criminal investigation of either man,” Barr said. “Our concern of potential criminality is focused on others.””
Inexplicit about Obama/Biden 2008, 2012.
But explicit about criminal focus on their minion rats.
“Some people are above the law”
Barr should be saying that right after the statement.
And so it continues. When he wouldn’t touch McCabe I figured it was over.
while Obama (and Biden) should be included for sure, I’d settle for a serious treatment of the Puppetmeister hisself SorozNazi and his almost as evil scions
I’m not a predictor but indictments for underlings certainly should be fair game. Half of Nixon’s White House staff went to prison so there is ample precedent.
Turns out Obama gets off scot-free.
For those interested in listening directly to what Barr said go here and fast forward to the 35 minute mark.
His comments were pretty strong. There are some very important acknowledgements by him in what he said.
He acknowledged a dual standard of justice.
He acknowledged that the cycle of politicization of the DOJ must be broken.
He said in pretty blunt terms that “spygate” was real and it unfairly targeted the President during the election and for the first two years of his administration.
He said the investigation continued.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cA05goPVhTk
We are right to be angry. I am angry. However, I would listen to what he said before I replied. For those who have some fantasy that the prior President/Vice-President will be jailed you will come away disappointed. For those who want the DOJ to come clean about what happened you will be satisfied and as expected, history will be the judge.
I had no problem with his comments. What he said was true. What he DID NOT directly acknowledge was how this partisan witch hunt by our own government impacted the 2018 election. That was not on him, but he might have elaborated more on it.
“”What happened to the President in the 2016 election and the throughout the first two years of his administration was abhorent, it was a grave injustice, and it was unprecedented in our history... the law enforcement and intel apparatus of this country was involved in advancing a FALSE and utterly baseless Russian collusion narrative against the President. The proper investigative and prosecutive standards of the DOJ were abused in order to reach a particular result. We saw two different standards of justice emerge - one for Trump and one for everyone else. We cannot allow this to happen.” (para)
He said those who “broke the laws” will be held to account. He said the only way to stop this cycle is to scrupulously apply the single and proper standard of justice for everybody.
Some aspects of the Durham investigation are being investigated as potential crimes. Cited the “Bridgegate” case and says an abuse of power, no matter how outrageous, does not necessarily constitute a Federal crime. They are focused on others - not Obama/Biden.
Unlike others who will likely post on this thread, I found his comments to be reassuring and it will be hard for anyone to spin them. It won’t satisfy those who want trials and public hangings, but he pretty much GUTTED the Russian collusion delusion and the Mueller probe from the podium.
Also, exercising my right to be an optimist, Barr claims that nothing as a result of “the Durham investigation.”
Well, might there be OTHER INVESTIGATIONS that cover them??
Does Trump choose these people on his own, or did he have advisors on picking Sessions and Barr for AG? Trump appears to be a little naive about these DC creatures.
BTW, is Trump still falling all over himself praising the two idiot Coronavirus “experts,” Fauci and Birx?
Yes. Real criminologists, not run of the mill academic sociology majors, have a category of ‘criminal equivalent” behavior— to account for those who are hostile, unethical, exploitive, dishonest in all kinds of ways but who stay between the legal ditches and never face a day in court.
“It’s not illegal if the President does it”
- Richard Nixon
One of his enduring truths.
No POTUS will ever be prosecuted for anything they do in office.
Of course zealots on both sides of the aisle will clamor for it when they have the advantage, but it will never happen.
Obama did the one thing that a President can do that CANNOT BE IGNORED: He turn the power of his government against a political rival or successor, which undermined the peaceful transfer of power and diluted the full effectiveness of a person elected by WE THE PEOPLE. Former President or not, this CANNOT BE IGNORED!!!!!!!!! It strikes at the very heart of what makes this country free. NO LAME A$$ EXCUSES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
“He is in effect announcing Obama and Biden are above the law.”
I don’t know about Biden, but every president is, in fact, above the law when acting as president.
What better reason for Trumpers to turn out to re-elect our POTUS in order to bring down the House of Bo/Mo. If we do not prevail, we will be mired in false investigations to belittle VSG-POTUS DJT.
Perhaps the words spoken years ago, will come to fruition:
“VICTORY FOR THE RIGHTEOUS IS JUDGMENT FOR THE WICKED”
That is true but half of Nixon’s staff was actually guilty of Breaking and Entering.
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