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Andrew Cuomo Explains Placing Wuhan Patients in Nursing Home Deaths by Saying ‘Old People Die, That Is Going to Happen’
RedState ^ | May 17, 2020 | streiff

Posted on 05/17/2020 6:28:31 PM PDT by sickoflibs

One of the great tragedies, among many, of New York Governor Andrew Cuomo’s attempt to use the Wuhan virus as a way of getting federal dollars to fill an $6 billion in his state budget was his decision that nursing home residents were expendable.

In March, as Cuomo and his braintrust were running about like beheaded chickens shouting about models and Italy, his administration issued an order that required nursing homes to accept hospital patients recovering from Wuhan virus even if those patients were still contagious. The ostensible reason was moving recovering patients to nursing homes freed up hospital beds to treat the Wuhan created carnage. The problem, of course, was that a) there was no great influx of patients, b) nursing homes, already struggling with problems related to infections, were monumentally unsuited to caring for possibly contagious patients, and c) nursing homes are packed with the most vulnerable of the vulnerable. When challenged, this is how Cuomo responded:

But in New York, the controversy over the mandate has escalated as the virus has battered hospitals and nursing homes alike: The state not only has more coronavirus cases than anywhere in the country, but also the highest number of known long-term care deaths — at least 3,500 — related to the virus, according to the state health department. A broad swath of nursing homes across the state have already accepted COVID-positive hospital patients in compliance with the mandate, and Gov. Andrew Cuomo has openly criticized facilities for opposing it.

“They don’t have a right to object. That is the rule and that is the regulation, and they have to comply with that,” Cuomo, a Democrat, said in a Thursday news conference. “If they can’t do it, we’ll put them in a facility that can do it.”

With one order, Cuomo turned places of refuge and healing into death camps. So, in a backhanded sort of way, Cuomo was absolutely correct when he proclaimed “God did not do that…That’s how it works. It’s math.” The slaughter in New York’s nursing homes was not an act of God, it was a cold-blooded calculation that the beds occupied by the people in nursing homes were more valuable if the current user was dead. At the same time, to tamp down the scandal, New York has been counting nursing home patients who die in hospitals, like after they were sent there when contracting Wuhan under Cuomo’s policy, as hospital deaths rather than nursing home deaths as they did in the past. This has caused a call for investigation into the policy and outcomes. See these two posts by my colleague Nick Arama for more details:

Yikes: New York Admits They Have Been Deliberately Undercounting Nursing Home Deaths

Janice Dean, Elise Stefanik Call for Investigation into New Scandal of How New York Undercounted Nursing Home Deaths

Today, in Cuomo’s press conference, he was challenged on his decision to sacrifice the elderly and the sick on the altar of a model of the progress of the virus that has been proven unreliable at every stage of the way. The video is cued to the exchange below

Q. What do you say to families inside of nursing homes and they are looking for accountability? They would like to see justice. For example, I just interviewed a family of three siblings. They’ve had two nursing home losses within a few weeks of one another on two separate floors of the same facility here in Albany. They felt so much solace when you got up and talked about Matilda’s Law. They said, “great, we’re protected,” our loved ones are going to be okay because of Matilda’s Law. And then their loved ones passed away because they couldn’t get the testing. So they are looking for accountability and they feel that they were failed. What’s the comment to that?

CUOMO: Yeah. The comment is this, and I have those conversations all day long, with people who’ve lost people, right? We lost 139 people yesterday in hospitals. Who is accountable for those 139 deaths? How do we get justice for those families who had 139 deaths? What is justice? Who can we prosecute for those deaths? Nobody. Nobody. Mother Nature? God? Where did this virus come from? People are going to die by this virus. That is the truth. Best hospital system on the globe, I believe we have. Best doctors, best nurses, who have responded like heroes. Every medication, ventilators, the health system wants for nothing. We worked it out so we always had available beds. No one was deprived of a medical bed or coverage in any way. And still people died. Still people died. Older people, vulnerable people, are going to die from this virus. That is going to happen. Despite whatever you do. Because with all of our progress as a society, we can’t keep everyone alive. Despite everything you do. And older people are more vulnerable. And that is a fact and that is not going to change…Why do people die? Who is accountablie?….

Q. [Inaudible] feel that if the mandates were currently in place right now, that we’ve all been talking about in here, were in place from the get-go, they feel that their loved ones might still be here.

CUOMO: I don’t…look people rationalize death in different ways. I don’t think there is any logical rationale to say they would be alive today….

There are several points to be made about the issue and Cuomo’s response.

First, there was never any logical reason for forcing contagious Wuhan patients into nursing homes particularly given the skill, staffing, and sanitation issues that are well documented. This was especially true when the cavernous Javits Center was not used and when it became glaringly obvious that the massive rush of Wuhan sufferers to hospitals was not going to take place. At best the policy was just stupid and ill-considered. At its worst it amounted to a premeditated decision to let the most vulnerable just die.

Second, the question is not an abstract ‘what is the meaning of life’ question that philosophers ponder. It wasn’t why do some people die despite having the best of care. It was one of holding to account the people who decided that putting the most vulnerable needlessly at risk instead of taking positive actions to protect them.

While it may be true that older and medically compromised people are more at risk of dying, what does not flow from that observation is that it was wise or moral to put them at needless risk for the sake of responding to an ephemeral threat.

I think Cuomo’s laissez-faire attitude is not just a gaffe, it is the policy of the state of New York that if you are old or sick that they will cheerfully kill you to make a political point.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New York
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To: sickoflibs
Cuomo is the Grim Reaper of 2020!
He is all about control!
I hope New York...
Raises Hell against THIS Tyrant!
81 posted on 05/17/2020 10:03:13 PM PDT by djstex (TRUMP 2020!)
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To: sickoflibs

Fascistas like Cuomo only care about power, not the welfare for people, esp. the weak, ill or non-voting.


82 posted on 05/18/2020 12:26:32 AM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: sickoflibs

That PUTO should be charged with MURDER!


83 posted on 05/18/2020 1:08:43 AM PDT by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: sickoflibs

Hang him upside down by his balls and beat him like a pinyata. If he dies, well that happens.


84 posted on 05/18/2020 1:13:19 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 ("SHUT UP!" he explained.)
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To: tinamina
Where is Mrs. Cuomo his mother? He put her somewhere safe I remember that but I don’t know where. I would feel awfully guilty if I were her. Maybe she can talk some sense into him. He’s a murderer

She raised him.

It's not likely she can talk sense into him.

85 posted on 05/18/2020 1:33:36 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Sadly, I had a run in with a FReeper who was of that mindset about the vaccine. Go figure.


86 posted on 05/18/2020 1:34:50 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: sickoflibs
Andrew Cuomo Explains Placing Wuhan Patients in Nursing Home Deaths by Saying ‘Old People Die, That Is Going to Happen’

________________

Andrew Cuomo...........nice guy.

87 posted on 05/18/2020 3:32:13 AM PDT by a little elbow grease ( ....... F.Lee Levin)
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To: nickcarraway

You enemies of liberty have no place here...


88 posted on 05/18/2020 4:33:55 AM PDT by Vaden (First they came for the Confederates... Next they came for Washington... Then they came...)
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To: sickoflibs

I think it is called depraved indifference.


89 posted on 05/18/2020 4:43:56 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: sickoflibs

90 posted on 05/18/2020 5:28:03 AM PDT by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: frank ballenger

Why should they care? The dead are registered Democrats forever now. Also, they’ll appoint themselves inheritance rights before the actual heirs through their estate tax tyranny.


91 posted on 05/18/2020 7:09:53 AM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: cherry

I’m not going to say it was a mistake.

Wait a few years and they’ll be crowing about how health care costs have come down under their administration, though they’ll lie and say it was from some other source than them killing off old people.


92 posted on 05/18/2020 7:11:27 AM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: WWG1WWA

Let’s not forget that both Obama and Cuomo are on tape saying that old, sick people should just be given a pain pill.

Old, sick people, especially republican voters, don’t deserve expensive cancer treatments or hip surgeries.

Evil people. Sick people.


93 posted on 05/18/2020 7:59:31 AM PDT by Trumplican
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Cuomo Explains Why He Placed Wuhan Patients in Nursing Homes, Saying ‘Old People Die, That Is Going to Happen’...

Did Andrew consider putting his 89 year old mother in a nursing home of Covoid patients?

REFERENCE On March 20, 2020, Gov Andrew Cuomo, announced a protective order for people over 70 in the state in
response to the COVID-19 outbreak. He called it "Matilda's Law" in honor of his mother, and appealed to all citizens to
think of their mothers in abiding by the restrictions.

94 posted on 05/18/2020 8:00:13 AM PDT by Liz
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To: sickoflibs
Here's the question, would Andy put his mother Tilly in any of those nursing homes? If the answer is no, then he's a failure, he failed those seniors, he failed New York, and should be criminally punished.

And the truth of course is that Old Nipple-Bars didn't have time for Tilly until Fredo and his wife got the gleep (or maybe Tilly got tired of Cristina's bleach baths), and Andy had to move her to another relative.

95 posted on 05/18/2020 8:07:15 AM PDT by StAnDeliver (I don't owe you my freedom.)
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To: Rurudyne

Dead Dems vote Dem. True.

Good catch about “they’ll appoint themselves inheritance rights before the actual heirs through their estate tax tyranny.” Governments still exploit their hapless servants after death. After long, expensive probate battles heirs (if there are any) often lose to the government. Government types are ghouls.


96 posted on 05/18/2020 8:26:00 AM PDT by frank ballenger (End vote fraud,harvesting,non-citizen voting & leftist media news censorship or we are finished.)
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To: pepsi_junkie

“This headline is fake.”

dang sure is... makes us look like jackasses.


97 posted on 05/18/2020 9:04:03 AM PDT by nralife (Proud Boomer Rube)
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To: sickoflibs

And now my Neighbor who works PT at a skilled nursing facility (the area’s largest) with her Son as well has just had her second test done. This is cruelty, it is madness and it is more than reprehensible. And they want this thug as President? Run him, DeeperDemos, the only counties in America he will win is da Bronx and Queens.


98 posted on 05/18/2020 9:35:25 AM PDT by Shady (One More Time: CO2 is PLANT FOOD! Without it we die. Any questions?)
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To: sickoflibs

He can’t even flip a flapjack.


99 posted on 05/18/2020 9:41:02 AM PDT by Shady (One More Time: CO2 is PLANT FOOD! Without it we die. Any questions?)
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To: DesertRhino

And the intended target will get a face full of 00 buck from an angry relative.


100 posted on 05/18/2020 9:51:03 AM PDT by Ban Draoi Marbh Draoi ( Gen. 12:3: a warning to all anti-semites)
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