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Andrew Cuomo Explains Placing Wuhan Patients in Nursing Home Deaths by Saying ‘Old People Die, That Is Going to Happen’
RedState ^ | May 17, 2020 | streiff

Posted on 05/17/2020 6:28:31 PM PDT by sickoflibs

One of the great tragedies, among many, of New York Governor Andrew Cuomo’s attempt to use the Wuhan virus as a way of getting federal dollars to fill an $6 billion in his state budget was his decision that nursing home residents were expendable.

In March, as Cuomo and his braintrust were running about like beheaded chickens shouting about models and Italy, his administration issued an order that required nursing homes to accept hospital patients recovering from Wuhan virus even if those patients were still contagious. The ostensible reason was moving recovering patients to nursing homes freed up hospital beds to treat the Wuhan created carnage. The problem, of course, was that a) there was no great influx of patients, b) nursing homes, already struggling with problems related to infections, were monumentally unsuited to caring for possibly contagious patients, and c) nursing homes are packed with the most vulnerable of the vulnerable. When challenged, this is how Cuomo responded:

But in New York, the controversy over the mandate has escalated as the virus has battered hospitals and nursing homes alike: The state not only has more coronavirus cases than anywhere in the country, but also the highest number of known long-term care deaths — at least 3,500 — related to the virus, according to the state health department. A broad swath of nursing homes across the state have already accepted COVID-positive hospital patients in compliance with the mandate, and Gov. Andrew Cuomo has openly criticized facilities for opposing it.

“They don’t have a right to object. That is the rule and that is the regulation, and they have to comply with that,” Cuomo, a Democrat, said in a Thursday news conference. “If they can’t do it, we’ll put them in a facility that can do it.”

With one order, Cuomo turned places of refuge and healing into death camps. So, in a backhanded sort of way, Cuomo was absolutely correct when he proclaimed “God did not do that…That’s how it works. It’s math.” The slaughter in New York’s nursing homes was not an act of God, it was a cold-blooded calculation that the beds occupied by the people in nursing homes were more valuable if the current user was dead. At the same time, to tamp down the scandal, New York has been counting nursing home patients who die in hospitals, like after they were sent there when contracting Wuhan under Cuomo’s policy, as hospital deaths rather than nursing home deaths as they did in the past. This has caused a call for investigation into the policy and outcomes. See these two posts by my colleague Nick Arama for more details:

Yikes: New York Admits They Have Been Deliberately Undercounting Nursing Home Deaths

Janice Dean, Elise Stefanik Call for Investigation into New Scandal of How New York Undercounted Nursing Home Deaths

Today, in Cuomo’s press conference, he was challenged on his decision to sacrifice the elderly and the sick on the altar of a model of the progress of the virus that has been proven unreliable at every stage of the way. The video is cued to the exchange below

Q. What do you say to families inside of nursing homes and they are looking for accountability? They would like to see justice. For example, I just interviewed a family of three siblings. They’ve had two nursing home losses within a few weeks of one another on two separate floors of the same facility here in Albany. They felt so much solace when you got up and talked about Matilda’s Law. They said, “great, we’re protected,” our loved ones are going to be okay because of Matilda’s Law. And then their loved ones passed away because they couldn’t get the testing. So they are looking for accountability and they feel that they were failed. What’s the comment to that?

CUOMO: Yeah. The comment is this, and I have those conversations all day long, with people who’ve lost people, right? We lost 139 people yesterday in hospitals. Who is accountable for those 139 deaths? How do we get justice for those families who had 139 deaths? What is justice? Who can we prosecute for those deaths? Nobody. Nobody. Mother Nature? God? Where did this virus come from? People are going to die by this virus. That is the truth. Best hospital system on the globe, I believe we have. Best doctors, best nurses, who have responded like heroes. Every medication, ventilators, the health system wants for nothing. We worked it out so we always had available beds. No one was deprived of a medical bed or coverage in any way. And still people died. Still people died. Older people, vulnerable people, are going to die from this virus. That is going to happen. Despite whatever you do. Because with all of our progress as a society, we can’t keep everyone alive. Despite everything you do. And older people are more vulnerable. And that is a fact and that is not going to change…Why do people die? Who is accountablie?….

Q. [Inaudible] feel that if the mandates were currently in place right now, that we’ve all been talking about in here, were in place from the get-go, they feel that their loved ones might still be here.

CUOMO: I don’t…look people rationalize death in different ways. I don’t think there is any logical rationale to say they would be alive today….

There are several points to be made about the issue and Cuomo’s response.

First, there was never any logical reason for forcing contagious Wuhan patients into nursing homes particularly given the skill, staffing, and sanitation issues that are well documented. This was especially true when the cavernous Javits Center was not used and when it became glaringly obvious that the massive rush of Wuhan sufferers to hospitals was not going to take place. At best the policy was just stupid and ill-considered. At its worst it amounted to a premeditated decision to let the most vulnerable just die.

Second, the question is not an abstract ‘what is the meaning of life’ question that philosophers ponder. It wasn’t why do some people die despite having the best of care. It was one of holding to account the people who decided that putting the most vulnerable needlessly at risk instead of taking positive actions to protect them.

While it may be true that older and medically compromised people are more at risk of dying, what does not flow from that observation is that it was wise or moral to put them at needless risk for the sake of responding to an ephemeral threat.

I think Cuomo’s laissez-faire attitude is not just a gaffe, it is the policy of the state of New York that if you are old or sick that they will cheerfully kill you to make a political point.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New York
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To: clearcarbon

Lets be real. The main reason to have them die now is to make sure they vote for the democratic nominee in November. The demorat play book, all dead people vote for democrats.


41 posted on 05/17/2020 7:17:00 PM PDT by Aggie65
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To: sickoflibs

So are you Andrew. If that’s the rule, turn yourself in.


42 posted on 05/17/2020 7:21:08 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Some of the folks around these parts have been sniffing super flu.)
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To: sickoflibs
The 2 most vulnerable groups in our country, that we should cherish, unborn babies and old people... and cuomo decides to kill them off. May he rot in hell.
43 posted on 05/17/2020 7:23:06 PM PDT by SeaBiscuit (God Bless America)
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To: sickoflibs

He was talking a different sob story about his dear, elderly motherly back in late March or early April, when he was criticizing Trump.


44 posted on 05/17/2020 7:25:45 PM PDT by Real Cynic No More (Make America Great. Prosecute Dems who break the law!)
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To: Rurudyne
exactly....people die , people are going to die, people will always die and its impossible to NOT die.....

but that was a huge mistake sending positive covid back to their nursing homes...should have had one facility in each local that would take ONLY positive covid nursing home patients....

45 posted on 05/17/2020 7:26:04 PM PDT by cherry
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To: sickoflibs

Older people, vulnerable people, are going to die from this virus. That is going to happen.

True. Its just Cuomo found a better and faster way to make it happen. Kill more old pensioners faster! Save the state bucks!


46 posted on 05/17/2020 7:30:59 PM PDT by Bommer (t'am a MAGA-Deplorian! It is the way! It is the only way!)
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To: sickoflibs

Cuomo is serial killer


47 posted on 05/17/2020 7:31:00 PM PDT by italianquaker
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To: sickoflibs

Cuomo is a serial killer


48 posted on 05/17/2020 7:31:10 PM PDT by italianquaker
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To: SpaceBar

Modern concentration camps. Imagine if a Republican was responsible for this state sponsored pre-meditated murder.


49 posted on 05/17/2020 7:31:37 PM PDT by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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To: shanover

Curious how Cuomo said today that no one should be held accountable for covid-19 deaths.


50 posted on 05/17/2020 7:34:14 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: nickcarraway
RE:”Sounds like what some Freepers would say.”

But acknowledge that there is a BIG difference between those that just want the freedom to resume our lives: work(earn our own $$$) , play, socialize,etc, live basically what makes us human, and those like Holocaust Coumo who forced Nursing homes to take the infected then blame Trump for it.

51 posted on 05/17/2020 7:35:20 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Wear your face homemade coverings (not a N95 please) when you zoom into work to show you care.)
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To: sickoflibs

And FL is loaded with seniors to boot.

52 posted on 05/17/2020 7:35:34 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: metmom

Good post! factual and memeingful


53 posted on 05/17/2020 7:36:32 PM PDT by CJ Wolf ( #wwg1wga #gin&tonic #Godwins)
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To: CJ Wolf

Oh, that’s bad.

But I love it.


54 posted on 05/17/2020 7:37:30 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: metmom

Wait, I heard that FL would be a holocaust for opening the beaches, you mean that didn’t happen ???

:)


55 posted on 05/17/2020 7:38:11 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Wear your face homemade coverings (not a N95 please) when you zoom into work to show you care.)
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To: sickoflibs

So, now the democrats are stuck with Biden as their candidate for president, since, Andrew Cuomo will not be able to withstand the barrage of questions and attacks regarding his awful decisions to battle coronavirus. But, he had very awful decisions even before the virus struck, so, he’s at a dead-end job as governor, and he’ll probably not run again in the state. Perhaps he can land a job at CNN, with his brother. CNN is known for hiring the worst of the worst.


56 posted on 05/17/2020 7:41:01 PM PDT by adorno
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To: SpaceBar
RE:”Curious how Cuomo said today that no one should be held accountable for covid-19 deaths.”

Said no one should go to jail, thinking of himself no doubt.

But also demanding billions of $$$ from the Federal government to pay HIS bills.

57 posted on 05/17/2020 7:41:09 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Wear your face homemade coverings (not a N95 please) when you zoom into work to show you care.)
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To: sickoflibs

Then what was the goal of the lockdown?


58 posted on 05/17/2020 7:41:12 PM PDT by Sooth2222 ("The natives are growing restless")
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To: sickoflibs

Well if they are going to die, better to die on thier feet fighting tyrants like Cuomom rather than what he did to them.


59 posted on 05/17/2020 7:43:22 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: sickoflibs

Andrew Cuomo’s covid concentration camps


60 posted on 05/17/2020 7:44:04 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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