Posted on 05/16/2020 10:08:47 PM PDT by L.A.Justice
BUTTE COUNTY (CBS13) Public health officials are now doing a contact tracing investigation after someone tested positive for coronavirus after a Butte County church held a service on Mothers Day.
According to Butte County Public Health, a person tested positive for COVID-19 a day after attending the Mothers Day service.
Its unclear exactly where that person was infected, but now the over 180 people who are believed to have attended the service may have been exposed to coronavirus.
At this time, organizations that hold in-person services or gatherings are putting the health and safety of their congregations, the general public and out local ability to open up at great risk, said Butte County Public Health Director Danette York in a statement.
Butte County Public Health and its partners are now trying to test all the people who attended the service.
Anyone who attended the service is being instructed by public health officials to self-quarantine.
Butte County Public Health and its partners are now trying to test all the people who attended the service.
Anyone who attended the service is being instructed by public health officials to self-quarantine.
As announced earlier this week, Butte County was among the first to meet the guidelines for loosening some of the stay-at-home order but in-person religious gatherings remain prohibited until Stage 3 of Californias reopening plan.
I went to Walmart yesterday it was packed and there was sick looking disheveled guy coughing all over the place. I went to the grocery store today and it was packed and pan handlers were asking for money and one got in my face. I used a shopping cart and I think I might have stuck my finger in my nose before I washed it. Yesterday two different sales people came to our door and we talked to them. I have got a better chance of testing positive than the people who went to that church. You can pick this up any time you go to a public place and even when people come to your house.
11 people on the fire department that I retired from tested positive. Two weeks later they all tested negative. Only one developed any symptoms but they were from his seasonal allergies and he still has them. The vast majority of people under 50 with no health problems don’t even get sick.
meanwhile...Telegraph behind paywalls:
16 May: UK Telegraph: Neil Fergusons Imperial model could be the most devastating software mistake of all time
The boss of a top software firm asks why the Government failed to get a second opinion before accepting Imperial Colleges Covid modelling
by David Richards and Konstantin Boudnik
In the history of expensive software mistakes, Mariner 1 was probably the most notorious. The unmanned spacecraft was destroyed seconds after launch from Cape Canaveral in 1962 when it veered dangerously off-course due to a line of dodgy code.
But nobody died and the only hits were to Nasas budget and pride. Imperial Colleges modelling of non-pharmaceutical interventions for Covid-19 which helped persuade the UK and other countries to bring in draconian lockdowns will supersede the failed Venus space probe and could go down in history as the most devastating software mistake of all time, in terms of economic costs and lives lost.
Since publication of Imperials microsimulation model, those of us with a professional and personal interest in software development have studied the code on which policymakers based their fateful decision to mothball our multi-trillion pound economy and plunge millions of people into poverty and hardship. And we were profoundly disturbed at what we discovered. The model appears to be totally unreliable and you wouldnt stake your life on it.
First though, a few words on our credentials...
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2020/05/16/neil-fergusons-imperial-model-could-devastating-software-mistake/
16 May: UK Telegraph: Coding that led to lockdown was totally unreliable and a buggy mess, say experts
The code, written by Professor Neil Ferguson and his team at Imperial College London, was impossible to read, scientists claim
By Hannah Boland and Ellie Zolfagharifard
The model, credited with forcing the Government to make a U-turn and introduce a nationwide lockdown, is a buggy mess that looks more like a bowl of angel hair pasta than a finely tuned piece of programming, says David Richards, co-founder of British data technology company WANdisco.
In our commercial reality, we would fire anyone for developing code like this and any business that relied on it to produce software for sale would likely go bust....
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2020/05/16/coding-led-lockdown-totally-unreliable-buggy-mess-say-experts/
more details:
16 May: Fox News: Imperial College model Britain used to justify lockdown a buggy mess, total unreliable, experts claim
By Peter Aitken
The criticisms follow a series of policy turnabouts, including Prime Minister Boris Johnsons decision to extend the national lockdown. The United States also used the model, which predicted upwards of 2.2 million deaths in the US without proper action. The prediction helped influence the White House to adopt a more serious approach to the pandemic.
Experts have derided the coding from Professor Neil Ferguson, warning that it is a buggy mess that looks more like a bowl of angel hair pasta than a finely tuned piece of programming.
In our commercial reality, we would fire anyone for developing code like this and any business that relied on it to produce software for sale would likely go bust, David Richards, co-founder of British data technology company WANdisco, told the Daily Telegraph...
The Imperial model works by using code to simulate transport links, population size, social networks and healthcare provisions to predict how coronavirus would spread. Researchers released the code behind it, which developers have criticized as being unreadable...
Scientists from the University of Edinburgh have further claimed that it is impossible to reproduce the same results from the same data using the model. The team got different results when they used different machines, and even different results from the same machines...
There appears to be a bug in either the creation or re-use of the network file. If we attempt two completely identical runs, only varying in that the second should use the network file produced by the first, the results are quite different, the Edinburgh researchers wrote on the Github file.
A fix was provided, but it was the first of many bugs found within the program.
Models must be capable of passing the basic scientific test of producing the same results given the same initial set of parameters
otherwise, there is simply no way of knowing whether they will be reliable, said Michael Bonsall, Professor of Mathematical Biology at Oxford University...
A spokesperson for the Imperial College COVID19 Response Team said: The U.K. Government has never relied on a single disease model to inform decision-making. As has been repeatedly stated, decision-making around lockdown was based on a consensus view of the scientific evidence, including several modelling studies by different academic groups.
Epidemiology is not a branch of computer science and the conclusions around lockdown rely not on any mathematical model but on the scientific consensus that COVID-19 is a highly transmissible virus with an infection fatality ratio exceeding 0.5pc in the UK....
https://www.foxnews.com/world/imperial-college-britain-coronavirus-lockdown-buggy-mess-unreliable
Simple. Anyone over 60 should get tested. The rest should wash their hands.Tested everyday? If you're over 60 you don't have to wash your hands? You simple minded mindless twit.
Wear your stupid mask and gloves and I still won't have to.
Line up like a bunch of kindergartners 6ft apart everywhere you go or just stay home and cower.
Suggesting you stay 6ft apart is NOT SOCIAL distancing, it's ANTI-social distancing but you people are to stupid and blinded by fear to even understand the concept of being social.
Yep, you have got to love the “180 people possibly exposed” rhetoric from the media...oooooooh! Sounds bad! Were they wearing masks? 6 feet apart? Like others have mentioned there is no trumpeting of “thousands possibly exposed” at WalMart, Home Depot or Lowe’s, just church gatherings and in counties that are re-opening,
They think we're not on to them? And what about that Constitution thingy?
ACLU where are you? Oh, yeah, I forgot. You don't care about civil liberties anymore. Just electing Democrats.
Man stop talking reason.
It’s not allowed in the US in certain places anymore :)
if obummer was president, we’d be locked down 8 years
Equivocator....LOL
Went to Carmel, CA to have lunch at Tucks.
The owner had been threatened with $1,000 fine each day he is open.
Ordered Portabella burger
Waitress thanked everyone for being so nice and a bunch of uz stood and cheered Freedom!
Can’t believe we thought the same thing at the same time.
LOL
Bunch of free thinkers
Really nice people
Coming back
Tipped the waitress $20 on my $24 lunch with beer.
She teared up and I thanked all the free thinkers for coming and realized a bunch of then wore MAGA hats.
They cheered again.
Fun time
FU Fascists!
lol
great story.
if someone had the guts to open around me (i don’t know if i would if it was my place) i would Definitely go eat there.
as it is i’m getting haircuts at speakeasys :)
If was so much fun to be around people who openly discussed issues as Free Thinkers.
Definitely going back.
“Possibly”
You are right.
This will be an excuse to extend the lockdowns and ban church services.
If I look and see that it’s made in China, it goes back on the shelf.
Media fear porn.
Just who’s the mindless twit there?
Nobody said that people over 60 should get tested EVERY DAY.
Where did you fabricate and the other nonsense you’re accusing Louis of?
Start actually reading what people wrote instead of responding to what you wish they’d said so you can go off on them.
Get over yourself.
>> Someone, According to, a day after, unclear where, may have
Time to shutdown the 1st Amendment for at least another year.
I understand your frustration, disappointment. I get it. I’d rather die from COVID-19 than continue the paranoia. I have a lot to lose including a young family. I’m statistically vulnerable.
That said, the “deal with it” proposal is a tough sell. I believe we’re at a point where politics is the greater threat. So to recommend “washing one’s hands” may not be our greatest challenge.
Thoughts?
Involuntary vax always meant more involuntary “care”. You are right. Regardless of the media claims, asymtomatic people are negative. I have hard eyewitness data of a significant number of high risk people tested.
I keep asking, what happens when you test neg. Does a test nazi tell you to get tested again? How much data does someone need? And where did the absolute incorrect data come from?
What was their motive in publishong lies.
Low exposure rate is exactly what people should want with a corona virus. It allows the immune system to be exposed to the virus so it can develop antibodies.
The rate of exposure determines whether someone gets sick or not imo.
‘Stop the hysterics’
can’t; the ‘experts’ and ‘authorities’ have invested way too much prestige into this to let it all go south on them...they’ve got what they want; fame, a cause, influence, and they’ve got the perfect audience for it...a nation that puts the psyches of quaking females at the top of is listening chart...
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