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We know everything – and nothing – about Covid It is data, not modelling, that we need now
The Spectator ^ | May 9, 2020 | Matt Ridley

Posted on 05/11/2020 5:16:39 PM PDT by absalom01

We know everything about Sars-CoV-2 and nothing about it. We can read every one of the (on average) 29,903 letters in its genome and know exactly how its 15 genes are transcribed into instructions to make which proteins. But we cannot figure out how it is spreading in enough detail to tell which parts of the lockdown of society are necessary and which are futile. Several months into the crisis we are still groping through a fog of ignorance and making mistakes. There is no such thing as ‘the science’.

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As a result, we don’t really know what works. It is possible that washing your hands, not shaking hands with others, not gathering in large crowds, and wearing a face mask in public, but no more than this, might have been enough, as Sweden seems to suggest.

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If Covid-19 is at least partly a ‘nosocomial’ (hospital-acquired) disease, then the pandemic might burn itself out quicker than expected. The death rate here peaked on 8 April, just two weeks after lockdown began, which is surprisingly early given that it is usually at least four weeks after infection that people die if they die. But it makes sense if this was the fading of the initial, hospital--acquired wave. If you look at the per capita numbers for different countries in Europe, they all show a dampening of the rate of growth earlier than you would expect from the lockdowns.

(Excerpt) Read more at spectator.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ccpvirus; chicombioweapon; chinavirusinfo; coronavirus; covid19
Some clear thinking from the UK
1 posted on 05/11/2020 5:16:39 PM PDT by absalom01
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To: absalom01

It is data, not modelling, that we need now..

i wish i knew how to post images.

i’d put up a picture of that guy from Star Trek the next Generation :)


2 posted on 05/11/2020 5:20:22 PM PDT by dp0622 (Radicals, racists dont point fingers at me I'm a small town white boy Just tryin to make ends meet)
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To: absalom01

If 66% are people at home...then shutting down wasn’t the solution. My gut says “herd” was part of the solution, early use of the Malaria cocktail....incl zinc and the last being....clean the damn nursing homes and get the sick separated out. IN NYS, these older folks should have been immediately put on the ship once it became contaminated.


3 posted on 05/11/2020 5:21:40 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: absalom01
This acts pretty much like any other pathogen.

What has been needed from day one is not science, but good old common sense, which seems to be in pretty short supply these days.

4 posted on 05/11/2020 5:25:49 PM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham ("God is a spirit, and man His means of walking on the earth.")
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To: dp0622

Here’s a tutorial. Takes about a minute to read, and simple clear directions.

https://www.w3schools.com/tags/tag_img.asp


5 posted on 05/11/2020 5:27:40 PM PDT by absalom01 (You should do your duty in all things. You cannot do more, and you should never wish to do less.)
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To: absalom01

they thanks :)


6 posted on 05/11/2020 5:30:12 PM PDT by dp0622 (Radicals, racists dont point fingers at me I'm a small town white boy Just tryin to make ends meet)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

I’ll take both, if they’re available, but when the world panicked because of the TV pictures from Italy and Neal Furguson’s Imperial College London model, there wasn’t any “Science” available. It was all a wild hunch.

We’re getting some real science on the medical front now though, but it’s going to take time.

We simply can’t wait on “lockdown”, which is the point the writer was making with what I thought was a very well reasoned piece.


7 posted on 05/11/2020 5:33:32 PM PDT by absalom01 (You should do your duty in all things. You cannot do more, and you should never wish to do less.)
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Here’s a different treatment protocol i ran across. This one seems really focused on controling the inflammation and clotting—steroids, high dose IV vitamin C, and heparin, mainly.

https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/MATHPressRelease.pdf


8 posted on 05/11/2020 5:47:29 PM PDT by FreedomForce
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To: FreedomForce

Now that doctors in the west have seen enough cases and have observed how the disease presents they’re trying all sorts of things.

Looks like the original WHO guidance to avoid use of anti-inflammatory treatment was wrong, as well.

They have a lot to answer for.


9 posted on 05/11/2020 6:48:28 PM PDT by absalom01 (You should do your duty in all things. You cannot do more, and you should never wish to do less.)
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To: absalom01

We can’t cure the common cold either and it’s been around for about 200 years identified. We know that a majority of the cases are caused by the rhinovirus. Rhinovirus counts for 10 to 40 percent of colds. Other common cold viruses include coronavirus and respiratory syncytial virus (RSV).

There is no vaccination for the cold and trying to keep hydrated, rested, and fever under control, is about all that can be done for it.

The only real time there are complications are with bacterial infection as part of the illness or people with high BP, asthma, bronchitis or emphysema. It’s the same with C-19. It’s just the flu.

rwood


10 posted on 05/11/2020 9:04:25 PM PDT by Redwood71
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