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THE TRUTH ABOUT AHMAUD ARBERY
youtube ^ | May 9 2020 | Stefan Molyneux

Posted on 05/10/2020 8:50:35 AM PDT by euram

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To: sit-rep

You cannot debate with him or her. They are a Jersey known it all who likely never even watched the video.


161 posted on 05/11/2020 1:54:49 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Fascism and socialism are cousins. They both disarm their citizens.)
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To: devane617
The more the facts are slowly revealed, the more the facts and the public reaction resemble the Zimmerman case.

In the Zimmerman case there was literally no evidence of wrongdoing by Zimmerman put before the jury, none. The more the evidence failed to sustain a verdict, the more the media demagogued the case.


162 posted on 05/11/2020 1:57:09 AM PDT by nathanbedford (attack, repeat, attack! Bull Halsey)
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To: RedStateRocker; All

If I am at the gun range, and I try to grab a gun out of someone’s hands and that gun goes off and kills me, is the gun owner responsible for my actions? Keep in mind that I am “unarmed”.


163 posted on 05/11/2020 2:01:37 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Fascism and socialism are cousins. They both disarm their citizens.)
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To: jeffersondem
Your argument reminds me of Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s argument that the impeachment of President Trump indicated he was guilty.

Can a comment like "If people are against the shooting then who is for the shooting" be far behind?

The shooter and his father are in jail awaiting trial. That will determine guilt or innocence. Isn't that how it's supposed to happen? Or should the local prosecutor and friend of the family be the one to decide they're innocent all on his own?

164 posted on 05/11/2020 3:50:54 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DrewsMum
The shooter was trying to prevent getting killed the moment he shot the thug.

Suppose you're walking down the street and a mugger comes up and demands your wallet. You fight back and are shot and killed. Should the mugger then walk free? After all he was only trying to avoid being killed when he shot you?

165 posted on 05/11/2020 3:52:25 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg
“The shooter and his father are in jail awaiting trial. That will determine guilt or innocence. Isn't that how it's supposed to happen? Or should the local prosecutor and friend of the family be the one to decide they're innocent all on his own?”

It looks like the decision to charge after nearly three months is being driven by Benjamin Crump (infamous in the Trayvon Martin incident), Shawn King, S. Lee Merritt, and the lame-stream media. That is not how it is supposed to work.

Speaking of the Trayvon Martin incident - are you still sore the jury didn't have the same knee-jerk reaction as you did?

166 posted on 05/11/2020 5:36:21 AM PDT by jeffersondem
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To: DoodleDawg

Ok I’ll play along.

What does he do as he “demands my wallet?”

I mean this Apples and oranges here but just for fun...


167 posted on 05/11/2020 5:58:44 AM PDT by DrewsMum
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To: jeffersondem
It looks like the decision to charge after nearly three months is being driven by Benjamin Crump (infamous in the Trayvon Martin incident), Shawn King, S. Lee Merritt, and the lame-stream media. That is not how it is supposed to work.

But based on an investigation of the known facts by the Georgia Bureau of Investigation. If the local authorities have admitted that they can't conduct an impartial investigation - and two recused themselves for that very reason - then isn't an investigation by an impartial third party something we should be applauding?

The shooter and his father will get an open trial where they will be able to submit evidence of their innocence and the prosecutor will present evidence of their guilt. A jury of their peers will decide. That's how it should have been all along. Fortunately that's how it will be going forward.

Speaking of the Trayvon Martin incident - are you still sore the jury didn't have the same knee-jerk reaction as you did?

Apparently not as sore as you are that the state overruled the knee-jerk reaction of the local authorities and conducted an actual investigation that lead to charges being filed.

168 posted on 05/11/2020 6:11:53 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: jeffersondem

Oh, and while we’re on the subject if I’m against the shooting does that mean that you are for the shooting?


169 posted on 05/11/2020 6:13:43 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Not A Snowbird

Bingo.


170 posted on 05/11/2020 6:14:39 AM PDT by Solson (Trump 2020!)
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To: DoodleDawg

“Oh, and while we’re on the subject if I’m against the shooting does that mean that you are for the shooting?”

Yeah! You did get your sass back.

Now, keep going and don’t stop until you get some common sense.


171 posted on 05/11/2020 6:23:42 AM PDT by jeffersondem
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To: DoodleDawg
“Apparently not as sore as you are that the state overruled the knee-jerk reaction of the local authorities and conducted an actual investigation that lead to charges being filed.”

Is this a reference to the Trayvon Martin incident, or the Georgia incident?

172 posted on 05/11/2020 6:30:03 AM PDT by jeffersondem
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To: wardaddy

My point was I don’t have time for the 46 min. video and will wait for a 10 point summary.


173 posted on 05/11/2020 7:03:47 AM PDT by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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To: jeffersondem
Now, keep going and don’t stop until you get some common sense.

LOL! I have my doubts that you would recognize it if I did.

174 posted on 05/11/2020 7:17:34 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: jeffersondem
Is this a reference to the Trayvon Martin incident, or the Georgia incident?

Unlike you, rather that deal with irrelevancies I'm sticking with the Georgia killing. Do you not think this is something a judge and jury should deal with?

175 posted on 05/11/2020 7:19:26 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Red in Blue PA

If I put you under citizens arrest, and you grab my gun and get shot, who is at fault?


176 posted on 05/11/2020 8:27:12 AM PDT by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca. Deport all illegals. Abolish the DEA, IRS and ATF,.)
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To: RedStateRocker

They never had him under citizens arrest

Watch the video.

He charged and attacked before they could even talk.

It is clear as day yet you want to believe some alternate made up story.


177 posted on 05/11/2020 8:38:48 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Fascism and socialism are cousins. They both disarm their citizens.)
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To: DoodleDawg

No.

A known criminal charged and attacked someone and ultimately led to his own demise by grabbing a gun.

One less thug. Good riddance.


178 posted on 05/11/2020 8:39:59 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Fascism and socialism are cousins. They both disarm their citizens.)
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To: devane617

Were they sitting around chatting while holding a shotgun, was the shotgun in the truck, or did they purposely go get the shotgun to chase the guy? It is important to know at what time the gun left a case, a rack or the truck and get into the shooters hands. What were their verbal exchanges with the victim that could have caused him to believe he had to protect himself or die?


179 posted on 05/11/2020 8:52:08 AM PDT by Toespi
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To: DrewsMum
And how should they have attempted to “detain” him?

How do you detain anyone? First, request that he stay until the police arrive. If he declines to do so, physically restrain him until police arrive. Failing that, follow him while in contact with the police, so they can find you and pick him up.

Shooting him was a stupid act; now even if his motives were criminal he's become a martyr.

180 posted on 05/11/2020 8:55:27 AM PDT by JimRed (TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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