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New York Health Dept. Study: Coronavirus patients treated with Hydroxychloroquine were NO more likely to survive the infection than those who didn't get the drug
Daily Mail ^ | 04/24/2020 | By NATALIE RAHHAL

Posted on 04/24/2020 10:51:32 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: stylin19a

RE: I’m assuming Hydroxychloroquine and Hydroxychloroquine sulfate are the same thing ?

That list doesn’t mention Hydroxychloroquine sulfate, why bring it up?


61 posted on 04/24/2020 11:48:23 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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To: BTerclinger

RE: not true. (personal experience)

So, let me try to understand this, you were given Hydroxycloroquine as an outpatient by your doctor?

But you never mentioned for what condition... was it Covid-19 or something else?


62 posted on 04/24/2020 11:50:23 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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To: Paladin2

A study conducted by a state-funded school gets results the state wants to see.

There’s a shocker.


63 posted on 04/24/2020 11:50:50 AM PDT by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds.)
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>> It’s a major blow to President Trump

Said the excited “reporter”


64 posted on 04/24/2020 11:51:16 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Database
Good question. I use nutricost (finally back in stock and substantially more expensive). 50mg is 50mg.

My question is whether taking Zinc Picolinate has any prophylactic effects? The US diet is poor in zinc, partly because of soil leaching resulting from mono cropping.

Type 2 diabetes as well as other types of metabolic syndrome related disorders are known for low levels of cellular zinc.

Something I have been thinking about.
65 posted on 04/24/2020 11:53:48 AM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: House Atreides

We know why.


66 posted on 04/24/2020 11:54:29 AM PDT by firebrand
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To: MAGA_patriot; Juana la Loca

RE: has this Dr. Zev Zelenko fellow been vetted?

If you think he is a fake doctor, then, NO. He has been in practice for nearly 2 decades.

Here is his background as per US News and World Report:

https://health.usnews.com/doctors/vladimir-zelenko-240812

Here is more of his background as per WebMD:

https://doctor.webmd.com/doctor/vladimir-zelenko-d0172276-3207-4517-a08c-629eafd8c8a4-overview

He is HIGHLY RATED by his patients.

Plus, he has made his treatment protocol and patient profiles PUBLIC.


67 posted on 04/24/2020 11:54:37 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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To: heartwood

If you think he is a fake doctor, then, NO. He has been in practice for nearly 2 decades.

Here is his background as per US News and World Report:

https://health.usnews.com/doctors/vladimir-zelenko-240812

Here is more of his background as per WebMD:

https://doctor.webmd.com/doctor/vladimir-zelenko-d0172276-3207-4517-a08c-629eafd8c8a4-overview

He is HIGHLY RATED by his patients.

Plus, he has made his treatment protocol and patient profiles PUBLIC. One can always try to REPLICATE his patient profile and his protocol. BTW, his use of HCA and Azithromycin isn’t his innovation. He simply followed the successful treatments made by Chinese, Korean and French doctors. He only added ZINC to his protocol.


68 posted on 04/24/2020 11:57:09 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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To: SeekAndFind

What do people think those workers were talking about before the press conference when one of them said “We all got the vaccine”?

Obviously, there is no vaccine yet, so maybe they got early shots of something as a preventative? Easier to call it “vaccine” than some long tripartite name.


69 posted on 04/24/2020 12:00:05 PM PDT by firebrand (If the video wasn't fake . . .)
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To: firebrand

RE: What do people think those workers were talking about before the press conference when one of them said “We all got the vaccine”?

I am sorry, I never read or saw that particular segment. Can you provide a link?


70 posted on 04/24/2020 12:01:48 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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To: SeekAndFind

I don’t think he is a fake doctor. I know he made the protocol public.

He did not make anonymized patient data public.

What I fear is that he may be a lying self promoter greatly exaggerating his results, perhaps fooling himself. I hope and pray he is not.


71 posted on 04/24/2020 12:09:10 PM PDT by heartwood (Someone has to play devil's advocate.)
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To: BTerclinger
:In New York, no patient can be given hydroxychloroquine as an outpatients” not true. (personal experience)

When?

72 posted on 04/24/2020 12:13:14 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: heartwood

RE: What I fear is that he may be a lying self promoter greatly exaggerating his results, perhaps fooling himself. I hope and pray he is not.

OK, let’s look at motives — what does he have to gain by lying?

If his patients are fake it would be a simple matter to ask a few of them to come out as testimonials. He serves a community of 35,000 Hasidic Jews. It won’t be hard to find these people.

Also, what financial gain does he get from this? The 3 drug cocktail are so common and cheap that I can’t make head or tail of how he makes money off this, unless he owns the companies that make them. DOES HE?


73 posted on 04/24/2020 12:13:16 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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To: Paladin2

Sorry government morons but the jury is already rendered it’s verdict on this and hydroxychloride works and works well

There are many other things that also work and are very inexpensive to kill viruses and bacteria among these are: Zinc , vitamin C , silver nanoparticles , High temperature ( saunas and hot tubs)

And guess what? Exercise and fresh air and sunshine are three of the very best things you can do to defeat viruses!!!

This was very clearly and technically stated at Yesterdays task force news conference. Sunshine kills this thing in seconds


74 posted on 04/24/2020 12:20:51 PM PDT by Truthoverpower (The guv mint you get is the Trump winning express !)
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To: frank ballenger

Re: Satan

That’s why I call them Demon-Rats.


75 posted on 04/24/2020 12:23:40 PM PDT by wintertime ( Behind every government school teacher stand armed police.( Real bullets in those guns on the hip!))
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To: Balding_Eagle

Just because President Trump mentioned HCQ the specialists have been negative about its use. Tell Dr. Marc Siegal’s 96 year old father who was on the edge of expiring and 12 hours of taking HCQ walked out of the hospital. That scenario has been repeated over and over again but yet the medical specialists condemn the drug. Start with Cuomo and Nev. governor Sisolak as they committed murder of thousands by Fiat. The payoff from Big Pharma must have been tremendous.


76 posted on 04/24/2020 12:26:03 PM PDT by chopperk
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To: SeekAndFind

Kiras Joel is a Satmar hasidic enclave. Nobody’s going to speak publicly without permission their Grand Rabbi Aaron Teitelbaum, who himself has CV. They don’t want the attention and have minimal interest in a political minefield.

Zelenko has spoken out because he’s a Chabad Lubavitcher not under Satmar, even though he’s been a family practitioner for Satmars for years.


77 posted on 04/24/2020 12:27:00 PM PDT by jjotto (“Blessed are You LORD, who crushes enemies and subdues the wicked.”)
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To: Paladin2

Why would they leave out the name of the name of New York City Health Commissioner Oxiris Barbot in this study
from the New York City Health Dept.?
Maybe because on March 30 it was reported that de Blasio and New York City Health Commissioner Oxiris Barbot repeatedly urged citizens to go about their normal lives, as recently as a couple of weeks ago and also

Over the last two months, Oxiris Barbot, the city’s health commissioner, said that riding public transit and going out into public — including attending the Chinese Lunar New Year parade in Chinatown, were not just responsible behaviors, but would additionally help defeat anti-Asian prejudices.

https://dailycaller.com/2020/03/30/flashback-nancy-pelosi-san-francisco-chinatown-coronavirus-trump/
https://news.grabien.com/story-flashback-nyc-health-commissioner-urged-new-yorkers-gather-p


78 posted on 04/24/2020 12:27:45 PM PDT by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll eventually get what you deserve)
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To: SeekAndFind

“The Albany researchers found doctors were more likely to prescribe the drugs to patients who were already very sick.”

this observational “study” was designed to show failure: every doctor worth their salt knows that anti-virals are effective only when given early stages of infection, e.g., tamiflu for influenza and famciclovir for shingles ...

how come no observational studies of groups given the drugs in the early stages of infection and those not given the drugs at all?


79 posted on 04/24/2020 12:27:49 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: Paladin2

From the start, hyrdroqualquine is supposed to be used with a zpack. By itself, it is supposed to ineffective.


80 posted on 04/24/2020 12:28:31 PM PDT by School of Rational Thought
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