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New York Health Dept. Study: Coronavirus patients treated with Hydroxychloroquine were NO more likely to survive the infection than those who didn't get the drug
Daily Mail ^ | 04/24/2020 | By NATALIE RAHHAL

Posted on 04/24/2020 10:51:32 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: frank ballenger
But look at the text...Officials and doctors were hopeful.

Not for nothing. But it's important WHEN it was first given and why we're not seeing Zinc in the mix and what pre-existing conditions these people had.

President Trump got his information from someone and probably several persons. So I'd like to know who they are and what type of relationship they have/had with Fauci.

Something just ain't sitting right....and Fauci is the real invisible enemy.

21 posted on 04/24/2020 11:02:25 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: SeekAndFind

I hope Trump is unavailable to take Cuomo’s calls in the future.


22 posted on 04/24/2020 11:02:27 AM PDT by ryderann
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To: SeekAndFind

There is no doubt they are using elderly, obese, COPD, at risk patients who died as their base.

They have to.

As we know the reported deaths due to COVID 19 are all fabricated and made up. The primary cause of death is usually NOT COVID 19.

So yeah. HCQ didn’t work? Duh! It’s not supposed to work on the average CV19 death.


23 posted on 04/24/2020 11:02:40 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (Click my screen name for an analysis on how HIllary wins next November.)
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To: SeekAndFind

So, medical studies break along partisan lines now? That about it? Seems that way.


24 posted on 04/24/2020 11:02:49 AM PDT by TalBlack
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To: SeekAndFind

On this subject I just tried to send the following email to Neil Cavuto who seems to have a thing in for Trump-does anybody have a good email for him?

Dear Neil Cavuto,

God Bless you, I know you have health issues but you just angrily spent spent another two minutes going off on Trump and HQC and what he said about injecting disinfectant-very Trump like ironically.

Just FYI-I was on a conference call with 7 other data analysis and no one took it as serious.

And then you went on about Hydroxychloroquine (the AP/VA non peer reviewed is irresponsible reporting at best . Look at the actual non randomized study, they added 19 dying patients to the HC cohort to get their results and completely changed the result. (Compare table 4 to the results on page 2) and even though the HC cohort was already less healthy to start with.) They didn’t die taking it, they were already at deaths door.

On latest FDA report this is the gist of the report: “In one such report, doctors at a New York hospital said that heart rhythm abnormalities developed in most of the 84 coronavirus patients treated with hydroxychloroquine and the antibiotic azithromycin, a combo Trump has promoted.”

I get that Trump is a piece of work and often annoying but you are losing objectivity.
Your Trump bashing it would be acceptable if you ever spent that amount of time and energy actually digging into these reports. On your previous rant on 4/21 he skipped the part about it being not rigorous and missed that it is not the largest study with at least 3 larger ones out there.

Suddenly if there is a negative report we don’t seem to require that it be rigorous or even peer reviewed. Would love to see more interviews like this one with Dr Zelenko who has a much larger study than the one cited by yourself. There are at least two other 1,000 plus test. https://www.dennisprager.com/video/dr-zelenko-this-is-a-game-changer-potentially/


25 posted on 04/24/2020 11:03:27 AM PDT by TECTopcat (e)
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26 posted on 04/24/2020 11:05:25 AM PDT by RomanSoldier19 (Game over, man! Game over! ; : rem ad triarios redisse is)
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To: Juana la Loca

Zinc?! An un-patented supplement that does not require a prescription? What doctor would use that? /s


27 posted on 04/24/2020 11:05:49 AM PDT by Unassuaged (I have shocking data relevant to the conversation!)
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To: Paladin2

I’m pretty sure they didn’t use the zinc.

In the University at Albany study, the researchers plan to analyze 1,600 Covid-19 patients divided equally into four groups:
those taking hydroxychloroquine;
those taking chloroquine, a similar drug;
those taking hydroxychloroquine along with the antibiotic azithromycin;
and those taking none of the drugs, as a comparison group.

I’m assuming Hydroxychloroquine and Hydroxychloroquine sulfate arethe same thing ?


28 posted on 04/24/2020 11:06:08 AM PDT by stylin19a (2016 - Best.Election.Of.All.Times.Ever.In.The.History.Of.Ever)
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To: Paladin2

Interesting how much leftist in the media want people to die. Someone needs to approach them publically with a document stating they refuse treatment for themselves and their family with HCQ.


29 posted on 04/24/2020 11:07:10 AM PDT by McGavin999 (Queen Fancy Nancy Of North Poopistan)
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To: Sacajaweau
....Something just ain't sitting right....and Fauci is the real invisible enemy.

I cannot get past Fauci's gushing messages of adoration to Hillary in the past. Not to be trusted after that. As if anyone in the government is above lying and coverups at any time.

30 posted on 04/24/2020 11:08:05 AM PDT by frank ballenger (End vote harvesting,non-citizen voting & leftist media news censorship or we are finished.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Every scientist who recommends HCQ:

“This only works in combination with zinc. It doesn’t work without supplemental zinc.”

New York study: AWESOME!

We will test it WITHOUT zinc since everyone says it doesn’t work WITHOUT it. This will be a totally authoritative study and we will be sure the results are leaked and blasted everywhere. The media will announce in capital letters that it doesn’t work. Science!


31 posted on 04/24/2020 11:09:09 AM PDT by Mount Athos
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To: Paladin2

No, no zinc and no AZT either- the original testable French trial drugs and dosing. No, this was hydroxychloroquine single agent. And not double blinded or placebo.

Here it the idiotic quote that sets up how “a blow to Trump” it is, to try and build up some sort of validity that is not there:

“is intended to involved some 4,000 coronavirus patients, but the preliminary results are from a sample of 600 patients.”

Sampled how? tested, how? Antibodies test or simply “infection” and no quantification of underlying conditions. Another “push study” rolled out by non-professional paid “investigators” to provide a ..... Tale, told by an Idiot, and Signifying.... Nothing.


32 posted on 04/24/2020 11:09:16 AM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: Paladin2
They will never, never admit that PDJT was right about hydroxychloroquine.

When he's out of office, they'll re-write history to make him look wrong about this.

33 posted on 04/24/2020 11:10:26 AM PDT by Steely Tom ([Seth Rich] == [the Democrats' John Dean])
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To: Paladin2
Yep. Where was the zinc. Best practices in many medical fields is an oxymoron.

I've posted a number of articles on the daily thread related to cellular depletion of zinc in metabolic syndrome.

This is a well known problem in Type 2 also. Hydroxycholoroquine and chloroquine are well know zinc ionophores.

Chloroquine Is a Zinc Ionophore

I know the proper zinc (picolinate) however I have not seen the proper dosing. Yes I know other zinc preparations have been used, however picolinate is far more bioavailable where it is needed.

If the studies (observational at best) do not include zinc, there is gross malpractice involved. Further, the publication is political and not medical. They might as well as build volcanoes for their high school science fair.
34 posted on 04/24/2020 11:11:23 AM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: TECTopcat
Trump never said it was a game changer! He said (many times) that IF it was proven to be a drug that was successful in treating the virus it WOULD be a game changer.

Just like any medication it will be successful on some people and not in others. But, to repeat, Trump NEVER said it WAS a game change.

35 posted on 04/24/2020 11:11:24 AM PDT by Russ (I)
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To: Sirius Lee

Based on liberal media’s logic, Cuomoron’s ventilators are more lethal than cyanide.


36 posted on 04/24/2020 11:11:40 AM PDT by granada
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To: Paladin2

So it didn’t hurt?

Why not give it a shot?

Nothing to lose when you are facing death.


37 posted on 04/24/2020 11:12:06 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (The fish wrap media promoted Obama's Benghazi lies in 2012.)
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To: Paladin2
We need a "social media check" before people are able to receive a scrip for HCQ.

Any negative comments on HCQ = No Scrip!

38 posted on 04/24/2020 11:12:23 AM PDT by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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To: PA Engineer

BTTT!


39 posted on 04/24/2020 11:12:25 AM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: Sirius Lee

>>The ventilators kill 80% of those put on them

And yet the press and politicians aren’t prohibiting ventilators in these cases.


40 posted on 04/24/2020 11:13:21 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (The fish wrap media promoted Obama's Benghazi lies in 2012.)
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