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L.A. County Antibody Tests Suggest the Fatality Rate for COVID-19 Is Much Lower Than People Feared ["the study suggests that 0.1 percent to 0.2 percent of people infected by the virus will die.. only somewhat more deadly than the seasonal flu"]
Reason ^ | April 20, 2020 | Jacob Sullum

Posted on 04/23/2020 7:21:18 AM PDT by grundle

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To: grundle

Much lower than people feared, or much lower than people hoped?


41 posted on 04/23/2020 9:05:13 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (BLACK LIVES MAGA)
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To: bramps
10,000,000 people get it you have .01 x 10,000,000 dead. That’s one million.

Tell me why anyone should take you seriously.

42 posted on 04/23/2020 9:06:50 AM PDT by Arones (When Leftists are in a minority, then they look for other ways to win.)
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To: bramps
Check the headline sport.

There's nothing like being TOTALLY wrong and being a complete dick at the same time.
43 posted on 04/23/2020 9:12:30 AM PDT by Arones (When Leftists are in a minority, then they look for other ways to win.)
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To: CodeToad

” we still get immunity through exposure. “

yes, but at the cost of added risks, including death, permanent damage, and transfer of exposure to others.

Are you one of the “no vaxers” who sends their kids to “chicken pox parties” rather than have them vaccinated?


44 posted on 04/23/2020 9:13:26 AM PDT by Swirl
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To: Thommas

>>While Ferrer portrayed the study as proof of the need for aggressive control measures<<

Barbara Ferrer (the ghostly lady who hogs the podium with Garcetti every day instructing us to ‘shelter in place’) is not a Medical Doctor. Her bio says she received her PhD in Social Welfare from Brandeis University. Interestingly, the website for Brandeis University does not have a PhD program for “Social Welfare”.

Notably, in 2018 “Doctor” Ferrer received $553,249.00 in compensation from LA taxpayers, according to Transparent California. The 2019 numbers aren’t in yet, but it is safe to assume the compensation is higher.

Live free or die.


45 posted on 04/23/2020 9:15:56 AM PDT by reagandemocrat (Liberate California)
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To: grundle

The New York State antibody study shows a 13% infection rate, details will be out later today but Cuomo said it at his press conference 20 minutes ago. NYS has 20mm people so that’s 2.6mm infections. NYS has reported 20,792 Covid19 deaths (I now the flubros are going to say most of these were shark attacks LOL)
20,792/2,600,000 is .8%, at least 8 times higher than seasonal flu. And there’s so much more! The seasonal flu death rate of .1% is not based on infections, it is based on SYMPTOMATIC CASES and 75% of flu infections don’t cause symptoms. The Infection fatality rate for the flu, as opposed to the Case fatality rate, is therefore .025%. Covid19 is 32 times as deadly.

https://www1.nyc.gov/assets/doh/downloads/pdf/imm/covid-19-data-map-04202020-1.pdf
https://www.nhs.uk/news/medical-practice/three-quarters-of-people-with-flu-have-no-symptoms/
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/2018-2019.html

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/how-many-people-already-have-covid-19/
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2020/04/21/revealing-chinese-virus-excess-death-graphs-coronavirus/


46 posted on 04/23/2020 9:38:12 AM PDT by brookwood (Obama said you could keep your plan - Sanders says higher taxes will improve the weather)
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To: luv2ski

I had nasal reconstruction surgery back in the 80s. At the time they put a nose pack in to provide support for bones knitting and general healing. Obviously this eliminated my sense of smell. I found that the majority of my taste sensation disappeared. Food of all kinds was flat and pretty tasteless. Just all texture. At the first doctor visit post surgery I asked my doc about it. He confirmed that the vast majority of our sense of taste originates in our sense of smell. Go figure. Hopefully for the Whoo Hoo Flu victims it is a temporary loss.


47 posted on 04/23/2020 9:44:28 AM PDT by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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To: bramps

What did you read that makes you think it is twice as contagious?

Did you also read that it was going to kill millions of Americans?


48 posted on 04/23/2020 10:25:31 AM PDT by FreedomNotSafety
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To: Arones

Tell me why anyone should take you seriously.

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I made a typo but the original point of the virus being much more lethal than the flu and would lead to many more deaths than the flu is correct. This a worthwhile article if anyone of the bloodthirsty here would bother to read it.

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/new-york-virus-deaths-top-15k-cuomo-expected-to-detail-plan-to-fight-

As of Thursday, nearly 16,000 people in New York have died of virus-related complications. With 260,000-plus confirmed cases, the mortality rate would be as high as 6 percent. With 2.7 million cases, it would be around 0.5 percent — much lower, though still much higher than the seasonal flu.


49 posted on 04/23/2020 10:26:56 AM PDT by bramps (It's the Islam, stupid!)
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To: FreedomNotSafety

See the article in post 49.

49,000 dead now with the extraordinary measures we have taken. I believe it very possibly could have been a million or more if we tried to ride it out like Sweden. You are talking the NBA, MLB, NHL, schools, malls all in operation with people in close quarters. I understand steps would have been taken eventually but with the overwhelming of hospitals and the logistical nightmare that would have followed, it would have been a nightmare. Which it is pretty much anyway now for other reasons. And by that time Trump would not have had a chance in the next election. Personally I think he is all over the place with his reaction (he certainly thinks a million or more would have died. Or so he says) so I’m not so sure he has a chance in the fall now anyway. I hope I am wrong.


50 posted on 04/23/2020 10:37:42 AM PDT by bramps (It's the Islam, stupid!)
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To: brookwood

Thanks for the info and links.


51 posted on 04/23/2020 10:46:25 AM PDT by grundle
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To: bramps
I made a typo...

It was way more than that. Your inability to recognize this is reason enough to ignore you.

52 posted on 04/23/2020 10:46:42 AM PDT by Arones (When Leftists are in a minority, then they look for other ways to win.)
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To: Arones

Your inability to recognize this is reason enough to ignore you.

“”””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””

I only wish you would.


53 posted on 04/23/2020 10:57:47 AM PDT by bramps (It's the Islam, stupid!)
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To: FreedomNotSafety
I believe it very possibly could have been a million...

bramps has to 'believe,' because she can't do math.

54 posted on 04/23/2020 11:26:33 AM PDT by Arones (When Leftists are in a minority, then they look for other ways to win.)
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To: grundle

Must be the Flubros strain...


55 posted on 04/23/2020 1:06:51 PM PDT by Crucial
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To: Nuc 1.1

You are correct that our sense of taste originates in our sense of smell. Experiments have shown when people’s noses are blocked. The person is given an onion and an apple and people can’t tell the difference. Permanently losing your sense of smell would really suck.


56 posted on 04/23/2020 1:28:12 PM PDT by luv2ski
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To: Thommas

“Well, the word went out to shackle ourselves to our bedposts, and we meekly obliged.”

Speak for yourself.

I go to work everyday because my job is an essential part of the critical national infrastructure.

I go to the store when I want or need to go to the store be it Publix/Winn-Dixie, Lowe’s/Home Depot, etc.

I don’t wear a mask in public.

I’m not afraid of this virus, I’d prefer to get it and be done with this crap, and I can clearly see the politics behind the lockdown.


57 posted on 04/23/2020 2:25:11 PM PDT by 2CAVTrooper (Political Science degrees, so easy Obama has one.)
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To: Thommas

Michael Bolton misplaced a decimal point?

Word has it he messed up mundane details like that at Initech


58 posted on 04/23/2020 3:11:14 PM PDT by 2CAVTrooper (Political Science degrees, so easy Obama has one.)
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