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Study finds no benefit, higher death rate in patients taking hydroxychloroquine for Covid-19
CNN Fake News ^ | 21 April 2020 | Elizabeth Cohen and Dr. Minali Nigam

Posted on 04/21/2020 2:49:58 PM PDT by Magnatron

Coronavirus patients taking hydroxychloroquine, a treatment touted by President Trump, were no less likely to need mechanical ventilation and had higher deaths rates compared to those who did not take the drug, according to a study of hundreds of patients at US Veterans Health Administration medical centers.

The study, which reviewed veterans' medical charts, was posted Tuesday on medrxiv.org, a pre-print server, meaning it was not peer reviewed or published in a medical journal. The research was funded by the National Institutes of Health and the University of Virginia.

In the study of 368 patients, 97 patients who took hydroxychloroquine had a 27.8% death rate. The 158 patients who did not take the drug had an 11.4% death rate.

"An association of increased overall mortality was identified in patients treated with hydroxychloroquine alone. These findings highlight the importance of awaiting the results of ongoing prospective, randomized, controlled studies before widespread adoption of these drugs," wrote the authors, who work at the Columbia VA Health Care System in South Carolina, the University of South Carolina and the University of Virginia.

Researchers also looked at whether taking hydroxychloroquine or a combination of hydroxychloroquine and the antibiotic azithromycin, had an effect on whether a patient needed to go on a ventilator.

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To: lonestar67

THe people doing the historical analysis probably did not ask for data on zinc, or didn’t have access to that information.

They knew they wanted to prove that HC wasn’t any good, and that the government should not have done a “special waiver” for only the “second time in history”.


41 posted on 04/21/2020 3:44:21 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Magnatron
Researchers also looked at whether taking hydroxychloroquine or a combination of hydroxychloroquine and the antibiotic azithromycin, had an effect on whether a patient needed to go on a ventilator.

What's the death rate on someone who uses a ventilator? 80%

42 posted on 04/21/2020 3:44:44 PM PDT by Sirius Lee (They are openly stating that they intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live.)
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To: Magnatron

Thank you for the quote from Sun Tzu. It gets so tedious seeing Freepers freakout when someone posts something from an “unapproved” source.


43 posted on 04/21/2020 3:46:12 PM PDT by TexasKamaAina
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To: Magnatron
Buried way down on page 13 is this...
Despite propensity score adjustment for a large number of relevant confounders, we cannot rule out the possibility of selection bias or residual confounding. Our study cohort comprised only men whose median age was over 65 years. Therefore, the results may not necessarily reflect outcomes in women or in younger hospitalized populations, nor can they be extrapolated to pediatric patients.

Our findings may also be influenced by the demographic composition of patients in our cohort, the majority of whom were black. Disproportionately higher rates of Covid-19-related hospitalization among the black population have also been reported in the United States as a whole

Our study also has certain strengths. Because we studied data from a comprehensive electronic medical record rather than from an administrative health insurance claims database, we used rigorously identified covariates and outcomes. We studied patients in an integrated national healthcare system; therefore, the data are less susceptible to biases of single-center or regional studies.

Data from ongoing, randomized controlled studies will prove informative when they emerge. Until then, the findings from this retrospective study suggest caution in using hydroxychloroquine in hospitalized Covid-19 patients, particularly when not combined with azithromycin.

So the study might be valid for black men with a median age of 65.
44 posted on 04/21/2020 3:46:58 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: ARW

So, let me get this straight. The mortality rate of patients hospitalized for COVID is somewhere around 35-40% across the nation. But the VA rate is 20% overall and 25% for HCQ patients. I would call that a success.


45 posted on 04/21/2020 3:48:22 PM PDT by ARW
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To: shoe212

A couple of weeks ago I saw an article saying that - for unspecified reasons - American doctors were not prescribing the HCQ cocktail as early as doctors in other countries. If the doctors in this study held off using HCQ until everything else failed, that might explain the poor results.


46 posted on 04/21/2020 4:03:18 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: DesertRhino

AND I think they omitted the Zinc which is the active component. They were doing what they could to “prove” a bureaucratic point.


47 posted on 04/21/2020 4:04:44 PM PDT by arthurus (covfefe boom)
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To: Col Frank Slade

Its a study! none of the dick heads that watch these idiots are questioning it


48 posted on 04/21/2020 4:10:03 PM PDT by ronnie raygun
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To: Magnatron
In the study of 368 patients, 97 patients who took hydroxychloroquine had a 27.8% death rate.   The 158 patients who did not take the drug had an 11.4% death rate.

With the way they present this, these reprehensible villains are seeming to imply that hydroxychloroquine kills.

49 posted on 04/21/2020 4:11:09 PM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken)
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To: lonestar67

97 people is a very low number in any case. This “study“ is far and away of much less consequence than the thousands of “anecdotal” reports from all over the world that have said the opposite.


50 posted on 04/21/2020 4:14:00 PM PDT by MrChips ("To wisdom belongs the apprehension of eternal things." - St. Augustine Do you think we have a chan)
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To: Magnatron

At what stage of the illness was chloro treatment started I wonder?


51 posted on 04/21/2020 4:15:33 PM PDT by 1066AD
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To: nwrep

“We’ve lost (and by extension Trump has lost) the PR battle on this.”

Nope. This is a very limited and BS “study. It doesn’t dissuade a single country in the world using the HCQ-Zpac-zinc sulfate therapy.

And, there are many of those countries.


52 posted on 04/21/2020 4:16:22 PM PDT by romanesq (8Chan & its child porn are kaput & all the crap with it. Trump-Pence 2020! Magacoalition.com)
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To: 1066AD

This is BS it is a lie so it makes no difference when the treatment was supposedly started I don’t believe they even did a study!!!


53 posted on 04/21/2020 4:17:11 PM PDT by Trump Girl Kit Cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
"How bad were the ones who took the HCQ vs the ones who didn’t?"

That and what about zinc? There was no mention of zinc. I've read zinc is critical to the way HCQ works to block this virus.

54 posted on 04/21/2020 4:18:20 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Magnatron

55 posted on 04/21/2020 4:33:09 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Wu Flu! (when I feel heavy metal) Wu Flu! (when I'm pins and I'm needles) Wu Flu!)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

I’m thinking that’s the case, since I’ve already heard that the wonder drug is most definitely NOT a wonder drug in the most serious cases. It just doesn’t help people who are already circling the bowl.


56 posted on 04/21/2020 4:34:19 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Wu Flu! (when I feel heavy metal) Wu Flu! (when I'm pins and I'm needles) Wu Flu!)
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To: lonestar67

What? No zinc?


57 posted on 04/21/2020 4:38:43 PM PDT by Wm F Buckley Republican
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To: Magnatron

No dosage cited. I read that in the study with all the deaths from heart problems, they were dosing 450 to 650 twice a day. The people died from overdose.


58 posted on 04/21/2020 4:48:39 PM PDT by steve8714
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To: Magnatron

Higher death rate is because they don’t let them take it in NY until they’re hospitalized. It’s best early on, not only at the time of diagnosis but at the time of symptoms. And Cuomo won’t permit this.

Who put governors in charge of medical and pharmacy stuff anyway?


59 posted on 04/21/2020 5:00:19 PM PDT by livius
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To: Col Frank Slade
National Institutes of Health and the University of Virginia.

Each entity is a Bolshevik, communist loving, Democrat embracing soup of SJWs. Katie Couric is a proud alumnus of UofV. 'Nuf said..

60 posted on 04/21/2020 5:01:42 PM PDT by Thommas
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