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Neither surgical nor cotton masks effectively filter SARS COV-2
Eurekalert ^ | 04/06/2020 | AMERICAN COLLEGE OF PHYSICIANS

Posted on 04/06/2020 1:34:55 PM PDT by aimhigh

Both surgical and cotton masks were found to be ineffective for preventing the dissemination of SARS-CoV-2 from the coughs of patients with COVID-19. A study conducted at two hospitals in Seoul, South Korea, found that when COVID-19 patients coughed into either type of mask, droplets of virus were released to the environment and external mask surface. A brief research report is published in Annals of Internal Medicine.

During respiratory viral infection, face masks are thought to prevent transmission, leading health care experts to recommend their use during the COVID-19 pandemic. With a shortage of both N95 and surgical masks, which have been shown to prevent the spread of influenza virus, cotton masks have gained interest as a substitute. However, it is not known if surgical or cotton masks worn by patients with COVID-19 prevent contamination of the environment.

Researchers from Asan Medical Center, University of Ulsan College of Medicine, Seoul, South Korea instructed 4 patients with COVID-19 to cough 5 times each onto a petri dish while wearing the following sequence of masks: no mask, surgical mask, cotton mask, and again with no mask. Mask surfaces were swabbed with aseptic Dacron swabs in the following sequence: outer surface of surgical mask, inner surface of surgical mask, outer surface of cotton mask, and inner surface of cotton mask. The researchers found SARS COV-2 on all surfaces. These findings suggest that recommendations to wear face masks to prevent the spread of COVID-19 may not be effective.


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KEYWORDS: coronavirus; disease; masks
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To: FreedomForce

And it ends with the universal research study conclusion...”Further study is needed...”

IOW, “send more money.”


61 posted on 04/06/2020 3:02:04 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: mlo; gspurlock

“Researchers from Asan Medical Center, University of Ulsan College of Medicine, Seoul, South Korea instructed 4 patients with COVID-19 to cough 5 times each onto a petri dish while wearing the following sequence of masks: no mask, surgical mask, cotton mask, and again with no mask. Mask surfaces were swabbed with aseptic Dacron swabs in the following sequence: outer surface of surgical mask, inner surface of surgical mask, outer surface of cotton mask, and inner surface of cotton mask. The researchers found SARS COV-2 on all surfaces. These findings suggest that recommendations to wear face masks to prevent the spread of COVID-19 may not be effective. “

This is truly idiotic!!

So they found that the virus was on the surfaces of the masks. Isn’t that what the masks are supposed to do??

And how did they check the effect of no-mask? And what was the purpose of the petri dish if all they checked was what was on the masks?

I’m either missing something or this is the stupidest test on record!


62 posted on 04/06/2020 3:05:18 PM PDT by aquila48 (Do not let them make you care!)
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To: lee martell

Not doubting but source?


63 posted on 04/06/2020 3:10:33 PM PDT by Moonlighter
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To: aimhigh
The word "eyes" was not mentioned in the article.


64 posted on 04/06/2020 3:14:28 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Die-ggl,TWT,FCBK,NYT,WPo,Hwd,CNN,NFL,BLM,CAIR,Antf,SPLC,ESPN,NPR,NBA,ARP,MSNBC)
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To: aquila48

They did test the petri dishes.


65 posted on 04/06/2020 3:18:45 PM PDT by mlo
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To: aquila48

The testing wasn’t stupid.

The conclusions, however...


66 posted on 04/06/2020 3:24:38 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: aquila48

The testing wasn’t stupid.

The conclusions, however...


67 posted on 04/06/2020 3:24:39 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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68 posted on 04/06/2020 3:25:48 PM PDT by Songcraft
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To: Moonlighter

This was a few days ago. I’ll need to look for it.
If I recover the data, I will post it here.


69 posted on 04/06/2020 3:31:49 PM PDT by lee martell
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To: aimhigh

The only known effective PPE is a face sealing, non-porous, chemically inert, flexible mask that filters air through a HEPA 13 or better filter without side leakages.


70 posted on 04/06/2020 3:36:41 PM PDT by taxcontrol (stupid should hurt (Dad's wisdom))
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To: aimhigh
I guess the only thing left that is 100% effective would be the Johnny Space Commander "mask".


71 posted on 04/06/2020 3:42:35 PM PDT by CapnJack
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To: dp0622

ROFLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


72 posted on 04/06/2020 3:43:38 PM PDT by Osage Orange (FWIW)
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To: aimhigh

I’ve known that as a virus is too small to be stopped. The mask might stop the sputum from a cough going out or coming in, but not a virus.


73 posted on 04/06/2020 3:44:02 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: old-ager
Even when you are "fit" tested for it...

I cannot tell you how many times,..I've been "fit" tested....

74 posted on 04/06/2020 3:45:32 PM PDT by Osage Orange (FWIW)
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To: CapnJack

It’s a great toy! The kids love it!


75 posted on 04/06/2020 3:47:48 PM PDT by GreenHornet
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To: Sacajaweau

Excellent observation.


76 posted on 04/06/2020 3:49:38 PM PDT by LouAvul ("Little by little, the look of the country changes because of the men we admire.")
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To: roadcat
Most N-95 masks will filter 95 percent of particles down to 0.2 microns or so.

My daughter just gave me a couple of older 3M n-95 masks.

I wore one for the first time when I went to a business to sign and pay for my tax filing.

Turns out I am allergic to the straps and have a very itchy neck now. -Tom

77 posted on 04/06/2020 3:53:13 PM PDT by Capt. Tom
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To: aimhigh

Both surgical and cotton masks were found to be ineffective for preventing the dissemination of SARS-CoV-2 from the coughs of patients with COVID-19. A study conducted at two hospitals in Seoul, South Korea, found that when COVID-19 patients coughed into either type of mask, droplets of virus were released to the environment and external mask surface. A brief research report is published in Annals of Internal Medicine.


They aren’t supposed to be hazmat suits. They are supposed to limit the spray. Clearly there are better means to slow the dissemination (vs. prevent), but they are a fair start. You simply can’t get one of those “27 foot sneezes” through even a cloth mask. You just have to understand what it is they are doing. Keeping the mask from unsealing and allowing snot nodules to blow out the sides helps as well.

Even if the snot penetrates to the outside of the mask, that is a whole lot better than it crossing the room.


78 posted on 04/06/2020 3:53:26 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Jeff Chandler

Nice. :)


79 posted on 04/06/2020 3:54:09 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

This strikes me as not very useful research.


It’s probably very useful, to a specific purpose. “Doctors shouldn’t rely on cotton masks.”


80 posted on 04/06/2020 3:57:47 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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