Covid-19: four fifths of cases are asymptomatic, China figures indicate: Is economic meltdown a price worth paying to halt or delay what is already amongst us?

The BMJ ^ | 04/05/2020 | Michael Day

[xkaydet65]

In NY. NJ it’s 60% negative. But we only test multi symptom or known direct contact. Now however if you call with fever and shortness of breath you are presumed to have it and not tested unless you need the hospital. You are told to Q for 14 days with anyone in the household and monitor changes in symptoms. I know two people who are in that mode now.

[zipper]

Great idea, let’s just give in and let a couple of million Americans die, so we can all have immunity.

Think of how many suicides would be prevented!

By the way, you go first. Go lick a toilet, and get back to me in two weeks.

[Paladin2]

We need mortality rates bases on all of those infected[of well selected samples], not just those tested “because symptoms” by age cohort to correctly assess risk.

That will, by definition, involve even more negative test results.

We can spend billion$ on testing and avoid spending trillion$ to fix much that isn’t broken.

[GrandJediMasterYoda]

I think in a few more weeks this will be all over with. Already it’s slowing down, but the thing is what are democrats going to try after this? Are they going to set off a nuke? They are getting more and more desperate to get Trump out of office, nothing seems to work so they are taking more and more radical actions. If they colluded with China to start a pandemic, why not collude with Russia to nuke the country?

[BunnySlippers]

What is a BJM? Does nit sound like a periodical.

[Paladin2]

"US peak is around 15 April"

NOT in every geographical location ---> NOT at every hospital.

That date is based on the weight of NYC.

[Paladin2]

"Already it’s slowing down"

NO, not everywhere. Some States are now scheduled to peak in the middle of May.

[datura]

China got the less virulent version, but sent the finished one to Italy and the US.

Everyone needs to read the genome sequencing report.

This source article has Panda all over it.

[abigkahuna]

Test as many as possible and give HCQ as prophylactic to whoever requests it from their physician.

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Totally agree. My wife and I would take it if it meant we could get back to work at fairs. Although there are side effects for those with heart conditions.

My thinking is to provide HCQ to all the ill asap to reduce the need for ventilators. I mean once you get on those things, the chances you surviving is not good. Why not use HCQ now...If it works, it works...if it doesn’t then no better off...

[SeekAndFind]

RE: China got the less virulent version, but sent the finished one to Italy and the US.

That is, if you believe the infection and death rate figures from China.

Not even the Wuhan citizens believe this.

[BradyLS]

Right. ...But I am trying giving credit to folks for keeping places like grocery stores, gas stations, etc., open, stocked, and the engine for essential good and services going during this time. And that, I think, is not inconsiderable.

[SeekAndFind]

RE: give HCQ as prophylactic to whoever requests it from their physician.

You are assuming that physicians would DARE to prescribe it as prophylactic. Many states don’t allow this application of HCQ at all. Physicians will be reluctant to endanger their license to practice.

[Atticus]

Chinese evidence? No thanks. Start testing Americans for antibodies now! And remind everyone that in late February the revered Dr. Fauci said the risk to the U.S. was “minuscule.”

[KeyLargo]

“What is known is that more than 647,000 people per year die from heart disease in this country, according to the CDC; and more than 599,000 die from cancer.
What is also obvious is that many if not most Americans are now living in fear of the newest disease to threaten in ways they never lived in fear of those old, established diseases.”

https://mustreadalaska.com/an-infection-of-fear/

[DennisR]

Yeah...you have a valid point there. Plus, in USSR-WA, pot shops are considered to be essential businesses right along with grocery stores, gas stations, ...

[JohnBovenmyer]

BMJ = British Medical Journal. It’s been around 180 years.

[null and void]

CHINESE DATA!</warning label>

Bring Out Your Dead

Post to me or FReep mail to be on/off the Bring Out Your Dead ping list.

The purpose of the “Bring Out Your Dead” ping list (formerly the “Ebola” ping list) is very early warning of emerging pandemics, as such it has a high false positive rate.

The false positive rate was 100%.

At some point we may well have a high mortality pandemic, and likely as not the “Bring Out Your Dead” threads will miss the beginning entirely.

*sigh* Such is life, and death...

If a quarantine saves just one child's or one old fart’s life, it's worth it.

[SoCal Pubbie]

Do you always post stupid comments, or just when you’re feverish?

[libertylover]

In about 10 days, I think it’s time to isolate NYC and a few other hotspots and for the of us can get back to work.

We have much more to fear from Comrade Mayors and Comrade Governors than we do from the virus, like stomping on our Constitutional rights. Prediction: Comrade Cuomo and Comrade de Blasio will hang onto the powers for as long as they can. Also, they’re not the only ones.

[proxy_user]

As a communist dictatorship, China can say they don’t care how many people die, especially older people, because we’ve got plenty of people.

This obviously wouldn’t fly in a Western democracy.