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How a Police State is Born
American Thinker.com ^ | April 1, 2020 | Steve McCann

Posted on 04/01/2020 4:02:03 AM PDT by Kaslin

The United States and much of the western world, by utilizing the most draconian of tactics, is plunging many nations into potential economic and societal chaos as they attempt to stem the tide of the Chinese Coronavirus. Relying on dubious and error-prone projections, politicians and bureaucrats constitutionally or statutorily limited in their power, are now exercising near-dictatorial authority in their edicts, which are effectively suspending or terminating numerous freedoms under the guise of protecting their respective nations.

All Americans, not be just those with first-hand experience dealing with World War II and its aftermath or living in Eastern Europe under iron boot of the Soviet Union or escaping the Communist/socialist hellholes of Cuba, Southeast Asia or Venezuela, should view these actions with considerable trepidation.

When societies lose their freedom, it is not ordinarily because autocrats or tyrants have forcibly taken it away. It is usually the result of the population willingly surrendering their freedom in return for protection against an external threat. While the threat is oftentimes real, it is invariably exaggerated.

This is what we in the United States are experiencing. The general public has been stampeded by the fearmongering in the media into demanding action from the politicians at both the state and federal level. The politicians respond and do not pause to ask whether these actions will work -- just do something! They do not ask if the financial and societal cost to the nation is worth the unknown and perhaps nebulous return.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


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To: SERE_DOC

You mis understood me. The US Army, and US government forces would not have a chance in a general uprising of armed citizenry.


41 posted on 04/01/2020 7:08:45 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn....)
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To: central_va
"You mis understood me."

However you ment it

"A general uprising of the population the USA wouldn’t have chance."

does not comport with your statement.

"A general uprising by the military against the population the USA wouldn’t have chance.

Cheers!

42 posted on 04/01/2020 7:28:29 AM PDT by SERE_DOC ( The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it. TJ)
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To: SERE_DOC

Whatever. The USA ( the government ) can only muster an army of a million over a period of months, in Virginia alone we ( insurgents ) could muster that much over night.


43 posted on 04/01/2020 7:31:13 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn....)
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To: jmacusa
I’m not talking about shooting cops. One of my nieces is engaged to a cop, two of my cousins are retired police officers. I’m talking about the Rats on Capitol Hill.

So you think you will gain access to 'the Rats on Capital Hill' without killing cops to get there? You clearly haven't thought this through. There are whole cadres of cops between US & Them. I take it you're just blowing off some steam.

44 posted on 04/01/2020 8:11:34 AM PDT by BlackbirdSST (Is it time Claire?)
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To: BlackbirdSST

In a sense yes, but plenty of Freepers have the same desire here many time. And just over this. What else do we have the 2A for?


45 posted on 04/01/2020 8:14:19 AM PDT by jmacusa (If we're all equal how is diversity our strength?)
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To: Kaslin

46 posted on 04/01/2020 8:21:47 AM PDT by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Have!)
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To: napscoordinator

I’m wondering how many will return to church. It takes 3 weeks to form a habit. ———————
My church is online. We are gaining members.


47 posted on 04/01/2020 8:42:54 AM PDT by buffaloguy
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To: jmacusa
I'm not arguing your premise. The path to get there is covered in blood. Yours, mine and theirs! Badges or no. If one hesitates because he sees a badge or a uniform, we've already lost.

I have cops in my family. A goodly number of US also have served (and are serving) in our various military branches. If they are with US, they will be standing beside US, not in front of US. Virginia Sheriffs (2A) recent stands come to mind. Carry on!

48 posted on 04/01/2020 8:46:11 AM PDT by BlackbirdSST (Is it time Claire?)
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To: All; Soul of the South
A lot of meaningless saber-rattling on here. Pfft. You won't do anything and you know it. How do I know? You're sitting in front of a computer screen moaning and groaning about the state of affairs. Takes a lot of courage, that.

FReeper Soul of the South wrote this many years ago but it's all valid. Prove it otherwise.

"The flyover folks (read: the better armed Americans) won't stand for this crap."

"The flyover folks won't stand for 50 million babies being aborted.
The flyover folks won't stand for government controlled healthcare.
The flyover folks won't stand for federally mandated school curricula.
The flyover folks won't stand for homosexual marriage.
The flyover folks won't stand for private property to be seized by the government and given to other private entities for development (Kelo decision).
The flyover folks won't stand for open borders.
The flyover folks won't stand for Christian symbols to be removed from public spaces while Islam is celebrate in public spaces.
The flyover folks won't stand for Islamic terrorists infiltrating the federal government.
The flyover folks won't stand for social welfare benefits to be extended to people in the country illegally.
The flyover folks won't stand for restrictions on free speech.
The flyover folks won't stand for local police swat teams breaking down doors of people’s houses.
The flyover folks won't stand for voter fraud.
The flyover folks won't stand for money printing and currency debasement by the Federal Reserve.
The flyover folks won't stand for their tax money to be used to bail out big banks or bankroll economically unsound green energy companies.
The flyover folks won't stand for increased marginal tax rates.
The flyover folks won't stand for eliminating the work requirement from welfare.
The flyover folks won't stand for bureaucratic imposition of carbon limits resulting in the shutdown of coal fired power plants.
The flyover folks won't stand for the federal government banning incandescent lighting, requiring engine ruining ethanol in their gasoline, eliminating phosphates from their laundry detergents, or limiting the amount of water their washing machines and toilets can use to the point they cannot perform their function.
The flyover folks won't stand for . . .

Based on their track record to date the majority of the flyover folks will walk down to the collection points and turn in their guns when they are told to do so."

No one's going to march. Very few are going to fight. Complain all you want but we have a really poor history of standing up over the last 50 years.

Perhaps this will be the year.
49 posted on 04/01/2020 8:58:26 AM PDT by tenger (And we let the Government padlock the church doors...)
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To: tenger

Sadly I agree wholeheartedly with your post. It has been stunning to me to see how easily this whole lockdown has been implemented. Stoke the fear and ‘the brave’ in ‘the land of the free’ roll over. From Benito Cuomo to your neighborhood Mrs. Kravitz ratting out you having a beer on your deck with a couple buddies, this is bringing out the inner Stasi in all the lots of people.

So easy. And good luck putting this fascist toothpaste back in the tube. Liberty lost is rarely regained.

The sheep fear the wolves. But it’s the shepherd who shears and culls them.


50 posted on 04/01/2020 9:18:15 AM PDT by BigJimSportCamper
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To: Kaslin

modified to fit the current issue:

“Naturally the common people don’t want war: Neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, IT IS THE LEADERS of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is TELL THEM THEY ARE BEING ATTACKED (by a virus), and denounce the peacemakers (skeptics)for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. IT WORKS THE SAME IN ANY COUNTRY.”

—Goering at the Nuremberg Trials


51 posted on 04/01/2020 9:22:46 AM PDT by BigJimSportCamper
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To: buffaloguy

I know, but when this is over, do you think people will just continue watching online?


52 posted on 04/01/2020 9:39:50 AM PDT by napscoordinator (Trump/Hunter, jr for President/Vice President 2016)
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To: Kaslin
"Is it not High Time for the People of this Country explicitly to declare, whether they will be Freemen or Slaves? It is an important Question which ought to be decided. It concerns us more than any Thing in this Life. The Salvation of our Souls is interested in the Event: For wherever Tyranny is establish'd, Immorality of every Kind comes in like a Torrent. It is in the Interest of Tyrants to reduce the People to Ignorance and Vice. For they cannot live in any Country where Virtue and Knowledge prevail.

The Religion and public Liberty of a People are intimately connected; their Interests are interwoven, they cannot subsist separately; and therefore they rise and fall together. For this Reason, it is always observable, that those who are combin'd to destroy the People's Liberties, practice every Art to poison their Morals. How greatly then does it concern us, at all Events, to put a Stop to the Progress of Tyranny. It is advanced already by far too many Strides. We are at this moment upon a precipice. The next step may be fatal to us.

Let us then act like wise Men; calmly took around us and consider what is best to be done. Let us converse together upon this most interesting Subject and open our minds freely to each other. Let it be the topic of conversation in every social Club. Let every Town assemble. Let Associations & Combinations be everywhere set up to consult and recover our just Rights." - Samuel Adams

53 posted on 04/01/2020 11:06:38 AM PDT by loveliberty2 (`)
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To: BlackbirdSST

Amen to that.


54 posted on 04/01/2020 2:23:11 PM PDT by jmacusa (If we're all equal how is diversity our strength?)
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To: tenger

“FReeper Soul of the South wrote this many years ago but it’s all valid. Prove it otherwise.”

Well, bless you for hanging on to it. There was a lot said back in the day on FR, Like Soul of the South’s long list of what flyover folks won’t stand for but for some reason were immune or ignorant of the gradual increase in the water temp of the pot they called home.

Speaking of wake up calls. That list ought to speak volumes to anyone who calls themselves a true believer in the Constitution of the United States of America.

Frankly that list ought to be pasted on the inside of every exit door in our homes as well as the front of the refrigerator and every TV screen in the house.

That list was pretty much the combined effort of a number of Congresses the citizens who voted them into public service, the Supreme Court of the United States both, Political Parties, a veritable host of unconstitutional bureaucratic government agencies, and even many I have not included.

We stand condemned by the list of our own making despite years of fighting to preserve the Constitution we have clearly been fighting what so far has been a losing battle. We have two or three choices as I see it.

Keep fighting the fight in hopes of a turnaround.

Give it up and rollover, but then the appearance is that is what we have been doing

Keep fighting with the knowledge that only God can win this one and pray mightily for the return of Jesus Christ who has promised to fight our battles and will keep us from having to go to war against our own.

Thanks again for resurrecting words of wisdom from the distant past.


55 posted on 04/01/2020 7:08:09 PM PDT by wita (Always and forever, under oath in defense of Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.)
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