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I am an ER MD in New Orleans. Class of 98. Every one of my colleagues have now seen several hundred Covid 19 patients and this is what I think I know.
https://texags.com/forums/84/topics/3102444?fbclid=IwAR3s13SRnw7YNgtu-7LZyrMUSMIRRWScU67lwbuwZM8fna-6R8k4tqrtO3w ^

Posted on 03/25/2020 6:48:00 PM PDT by BusterDog

"Clinical course is predictable. 2-11 days after exposure (day 5 on average) flu like symptoms start. Common are fever, headache, dry cough, myalgias(back pain), nausea without vomiting, abdominal discomfort with some diarrhea, loss of smell, anorexia, fatigue.

Day 5 of symptoms- increased SOB, and bilateral viral pneumonia from direct viral damage to lung parenchyma.

Day 10- Cytokine storm leading to acute ARDS and multiorgan failure. You can literally watch it happen in a matter of hours.

81% mild symptoms, 14% severe symptoms requiring hospitalization, 5% critical."


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: coronavirus; course; covid19; death; doctorspeaks; symptoms
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To: Husker24

No. Leftist DIMS are the perfect weapon .


101 posted on 03/25/2020 7:41:08 PM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp???)
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To: BusterDog

Not good. Plaquenil Is hydroxychloroquine. He’s giving his patients that and the zpac with little or no effect. Hopefully with refined dosage, it’ll kick in. Bookmarking his post to read future updates, if any.


102 posted on 03/25/2020 7:41:20 PM PDT by Nicojones
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To: Pelham; ifinnegan; FreeReign
It’s an immune system over-reaction to the strange virus. A massive over-reaction that if it’s in the lung can drown you in antibodies.

The 1918 flu is suspected to have caused cytokine storms in tbe young and healthy. Healthy adults could develop flu symptoms in the morning and be dead by evening. Normal flus kill by secondary pneumonia. Hybrid animal/human flus can provoke cytokine storm.

This Covid-19 virus is largely a bat coronavirus. So I suppose like hybrid flus that makes it something of a zoonotic disease

Would cytokine storm explain why some patients laugh it off and others go critical?

103 posted on 03/25/2020 7:41:20 PM PDT by Steely Tom ([Seth Rich] == [the Democrats' John Dean])
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To: Vermont Lt

5 days to go. Pray like you never have before.


104 posted on 03/25/2020 7:42:33 PM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: FreeReign; RummyChick

“So does this mean I am in constant mode of a cytokine storm or a storm that is about to hit”

No. A cytokine storm is a massive immune system over-reaction that can damage major organs or even kill you.


105 posted on 03/25/2020 7:42:35 PM PDT by Pelham (RIP California, killed by massive immigration)
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To: BusterDog

Why is this NOT information to base a response on?

His numbers are based one those who presented at the Hospital. For example 80 something % mild symptoms, 5% critical, etc.

What about the untold masses who are symptomless? Which I think is the majority. So then it’s NOT 5%. Lets say they hare missing 80% of the cases (a fair geuss) then they real critical rate is <1%.

IF 5% critical was true, then new would have Tens of thousands dead - a reminder 20-70,000 die a year due to Flu.

Stop with the Hysteria based on Junk Science.


106 posted on 03/25/2020 7:43:35 PM PDT by BereanBrain
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To: Steely Tom

I theorize that Ibuprofen is one reason why some can laugh it off and some dont

Seeing cases of people who reveal how bad it was and they mention taking it for the aches

Anectodal.

But enough that I will not be taking for anything until this resolves itself


107 posted on 03/25/2020 7:44:11 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: BusterDog

Do you have any medical training at all?


108 posted on 03/25/2020 7:44:26 PM PDT by Osage Orange (FWIW)
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To: RummyChick

Don’t forget star anise that they use to make tamiflu!


109 posted on 03/25/2020 7:44:37 PM PDT by willyd (I for one welcome our NSA overlords)
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To: Vermont Lt

It IS a flu. I know a man who went into heart block from H1N1 (swine flu), because of course, the sainted Barack Hussein Obama was “in President” and the media kept the whole thing under wraps.


110 posted on 03/25/2020 7:44:55 PM PDT by backwoods-engineer (Politics is the continuation of war by other means. --Clausewitz)
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To: BusterDog
I have seen the bilateral interstitial pneumonia on the xray of the asymptomatic shoulder dislocation

Could be the lyrics for a hit song.

I've seen lovers flying through the air hand in hand
I've seen babies dancing in the midnight sun
And I've seen bilateral interstitial pneumonia on the xray of the asymptomatic shoulder dislocation
But I never seen nothin' like you

Do you, do you want my love, woman
Do you, do you want my face, I need it!
Do you, do you want my mind, I'm saying it!
Do you, do you want my love

Oh wait that one's been done. Never mind.

111 posted on 03/25/2020 7:44:56 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (My tagline is in the shop.)
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To: BereanBrain

Believing things posted on the internet by “someone” is an example of poor judgment.


112 posted on 03/25/2020 7:45:12 PM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp???)
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To: Pelham

But...

“A considerable number of inflammatory cytokines have been shown to be elevated in lesional psoriasis skin”

And we know that some of the treatments being tried for Wuhan are anti inflammatory.

So anyone who has psoriasis and not on medication could be at higher risk


113 posted on 03/25/2020 7:46:36 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: Jane Long
No, not difficulty breathing.

Patients are coming in hypoxic (even 75%) without dyspnea.

Without means not.

I get this a lot. I'm always asked if I have trouble breathing when I get my vitals read.

114 posted on 03/25/2020 7:46:52 PM PDT by Alas Babylon! (The prisons do not fill themselves. Get moving, Barr!)
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To: freepersup; Husker24
Yes, and how convenient coincidental. Bastards!

Except they are trying to intimidate the most powerful street fighter in the world. Kung flu isn't going to cut it.

115 posted on 03/25/2020 7:47:09 PM PDT by frog in a pot (Trump is in a vicious street fight on our behalf for the soul of our nation.)
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To: Vermont Lt
You old folks are getting scared now that its real. I can smell in on you. After a month of pissing all over us, you are starting to see that its here. And its not the friggin flu.

Come on now, LT. This is not about you or others being pissed on for ringing the bell early. Leave the personal animus out of it.

It's about providing info for people to make data informed decisions and choices. You do a good job in helping provide info.

People make the decisions they make. We all have agency.

116 posted on 03/25/2020 7:47:33 PM PDT by Fury
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To: willyd

okay..need to look at that..I actually have some of that in dried form


117 posted on 03/25/2020 7:47:34 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: AAABEST

It’s sarcasm. By the guy that (mostly) runs the CV threads. You should come visit.


118 posted on 03/25/2020 7:48:39 PM PDT by calenel (Don't panic. Prepare and be vigilant. Join the war effort. On the human side.)
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To: Osage Orange

“Do you have any medical training at all?”

I didn’t write it. I don’t ask you how much legal training you have when you run your mouth about Supreme Court opinions.

As if I’ve offered any opinion at all on it (I do have one), I just posted the link to this Dr’s story.

You are Mad, FluBro, and not in the “angry” sense of the word.


119 posted on 03/25/2020 7:49:19 PM PDT by BusterDog
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To: Steely Tom; ifinnegan; FreeReign

“Would cytokine storm explain why some patients laugh it off and others go critical?”

It’s probably more common to go critical through secondary pneumonia. But here’s a Lancet article on Covid and Cytokine Storm Syndrome:

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)30628-0/fulltext


120 posted on 03/25/2020 7:49:23 PM PDT by Pelham (RIP California, killed by massive immigration)
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