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To: Oldeconomybuyer
It's done now.

Biden vs. Trump.

The President knows it too.

Trump shifts his attention to surging Biden, lays off Sanders

I am stunned by the incredibly rapid fall of Bernie Sanders. What did that take for the turnaround......a few days? One minute, he was the nominee, and then, poof.

Was it really Democrat voters who gave him the shove? Or did the corrupt "fixers" strike again? Vote fraud, machine manipulation, and criminal activity are their forte.

2 posted on 03/04/2020 2:17:32 AM PST by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: SkyPilot

There’s been an all out media barrage against Sanders for the last couple of weeks. It looks like the Deep State/DNC pulled out all the stops.


4 posted on 03/04/2020 2:23:40 AM PST by Ken H (Best SOTU ever!)
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To: SkyPilot

> Vote fraud, machine manipulation, and criminal activity are their forte. <

Yep. And we will see all that turned against Trump come November. It is going to be a close election, just like the one in 2016.


8 posted on 03/04/2020 2:30:56 AM PST by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: SkyPilot
I am stunned by the incredibly rapid fall of Bernie Sanders.

DNC elders put in "the fix". Again.

11 posted on 03/04/2020 2:39:04 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: SkyPilot

“It’s done now.”

People said the same when Bernie won Nevada.

Biden only has a small delegate lead.


12 posted on 03/04/2020 2:43:03 AM PST by Helicondelta (Deplorable)
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To: SkyPilot
My comment yesterday that Joe Biden was a "dead Man walking" seems belied by the results across the nation.

Did the rank-and-file Democrats vote for Joe Biden or did they vote against Bernie Sanders? My guess, and it is only that, is they voted largely against Bernie Sanders for mixed reasons.

Fear is a great motivator in elections and I believe the Democrat rank-and-file voted out of fear of what Bernie would produce in the election and what he might even do to the country if he somehow got elected. Of course, there must've been some general belief that Biden was more likely to beat Trump, or more probably, a belief that Sanders was less likely to beat Trump.

I believe there was fear that Bernie would crash the economy, of fear entertained by a sliver of Democrats, probably of older generations, who looked at his spending agenda and recognized a potential national disaster. This generational cohort probably also feared for the down ballot wipeout if Bernie headed the ticket.

I say this because a Bernie Sanders election will be a nationalized election about his revolution, his Marxism, his profligacy. Such a nationalized election will really hurt down ballot Democrat candidates.

Sober Democrats probably understand that Biden is personally and extremely weak candidate, not fit for the job, if not a dead man walking at least a walking gaffe on the hoof, but one who will lose gracefully and one who will not destroy the party in doing so.

As to which one I would like to see as a Democrat candidate, I prefer sleepy Joe who will defeat himself. Bernie will stand up against Trump better in a debate, he makes few gaffes, he has a rabid base who will turn out his vote, but who will stay home when they are deprived the nomination.

Bernie's great liability, of course, is his radicalism which Trump can probably credibly portray as a threat to the nation. Bernie's platform undeniably appeals to a stratum of our society but Trump does not argue issues, he personalizes his opponents Alinsky-style.

Trump will have and has had no difficulty whatsoever personalizing and destroying senile Joe Biden. Apart from hard-core Democrats who would vote for Satan before Trump, Biden has no charisma and no enthusiastic base. His whole campaign will be sabotaged or at least stumbling to election day unsupported by Bernie's rabid base.

The downside of a Biden presidency is less risky than the downside of a Sanders presidency. Trump should win either way.


38 posted on 03/04/2020 3:55:31 AM PST by nathanbedford (attack, repeat, attack! Bull Halsey)
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To: SkyPilot
Biden debating Trump Remote Control Joe 🎧, the only way they'll let him go one-on-one with Trump. 😀
41 posted on 03/04/2020 4:03:36 AM PST by Varsity Flight (Mr. President, We the People, have your back.)
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To: SkyPilot
Was it really Democrat voters who gave him the shove? Or did the corrupt "fixers" strike again?

What we are seeing, for the umpteenth time, is the Democrats' much higher degree of party discipline. They have exactly the same situation as did the Republicans in 2016: so many candidates that the field was hopelessly split, creating room for an unlikely insurgency. Had the Republican field acted rationally in 2016, it would have been a three, perhaps four, person race after South Carolina, and a two person race shortly thereafter. That would probably have produced Ted Cruz or Marco Rubio as the nominee. But Jeb Bush and, in the end, John Kasich ensured that would not happen, and that the non-Trump vote remained split. The Democrats aren't going to let that happen. They are going to clear the field for whoever has the best chance to stop Bernie. That now looks like Biden, a sad sack of a candidate, but at least not a raving communist.

Biden will be very dangerous in the general election. Yes, he's rapidly slipping mentally and he's corrupt. But the media will play coverup. The coverage will be a 24/7 hate on Donald Trump. Biden himself will be kept mostly under wraps. He will be handled with kid gloves and rolled out for the bare minimum of public appearances. The voters will not see Joe Biden in the flesh; they will see the Super Bowl ad version of Joe Biden. My guess is that there will not be a debate.

44 posted on 03/04/2020 4:16:24 AM PST by sphinx
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To: SkyPilot

Dems need Bernie voters in the fall or they have no chance. They couldn’t afford the appearance of it being stolen from Bernie at the convention, so they mustered forces now in hopes that a legitimate loss would be less offensive to Bernie bots.

Now Dems are stuck with the gaffer. Come on man, that constitutional thing, fatty, I’ll take you out behind the school and have a push-up contest with my double barrel shotgun....

By the way, where’s Hunter?


55 posted on 03/04/2020 5:04:50 AM PST by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them.)
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